Hi I dont know about the USA but in the UK there is a replacement for R12, which is R24a and it is an ozone friendly replacement for R12. Converting to R134a should cost a lot as they should replace the whole system including pipes as R134a is totally different. Some Air con specialists only flush the system then replace the condenser/dryer and then charge less that £200 (about $300 ), but you will be constanly re gassing the system. In the UK it costs about £80 ($110) to re gass with R24a. On another note I noticed Vin 16328 for sale in PA. My vin is 16327! I found it on Hemmings..what are the chances of that :-) See http://www.raycoeuro.com/html/83Delorean.html Chris S Vin 16327 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Soma576@xxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:04 PM Subject: [DML] my 134a conversion begins... > Hey all, > > one of the last things that i need to do to get my car complete is to rebuild > the A/C system. when i bought the car in 2000, the A/C worked ok but didn't > work when i took the car out of storage. i had it recharged and it worked > perfectly for a while until the compressor cycling became excessive and i > eventually blew one of the long A/C lines. and that's how it has been ever > since last summer. this year i want to get things rolling again.... > > i have decided to switch over to R-134a freon. R-12 is becoming > prohibitively expensive around here ($90/lb), especially if i have a leaky > system. R-134a is only $8/lb. last year i had my A/C checked out after the > leak and they found dye pretty much everywhere under there where there are > metal to rubber connections, and the two main lines were both leaking freon > down the whole length of them. so it is obvious i will need new lines. > anyway, i have had my car's underbody steamcleaned and i am going to take the > car in to a local A/C shop to have it evaluated. what we will do is just > charge the system with a couple lbs of 134A and find out where the leaks are > so i know what needs to be replaced. after that i'm going to get my old long > hoses out and bring them to a hose shop in town who custom makes A/C lines. > they looked at them today on the car and estimated about $130 for both lines > including the fittings. then i'll get the new lines from them minus the > fittings attached and feed them thru the frame and they will crimp the new > ends on them with the lines on the car. this will save me the hassle of > lifting the body from the frame. i'll probably have to replace the high and > low pressure switches too, or at least i'll do it just because i'll already > be in there. depending on what else is leaking, i'll have to replace that > stuff too. once everything is leak-free, i am having another local place > change whatever o-rings need to be changed and they will also vacuum the > system and put different oil in and charge it up. HOPEFULLY everything will > work!! > > 1. what does everyone else think about this?? am i missing anything really > important? > > 2. what about the "A/C dryer" that some places have told me will need to be > replaced? i can't find anything on any of the vendor's sites that is called a > dryer. does the DeLorean have this part? > > 3. any ideas on what else will need to be done to make the A/C work > correctly? > > 4. does the line that goes from the accumulator to the evaporator need to be > changed? > > 5. and what about the line from the lower fitting on the condensor? > > any insight is greatly appreciated!! > Andy > > Soma576@xxxx > 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596 > Fargo, ND 58102 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator@xxxx > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >