Both answers can be found here http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/starterfix.html My car exhibits these symptoms regularly, and both yours and mine left the factory prior to the modification (prior to 2547). Only the other day I was asked "why do you always put your VIN number at the end of your posts?"... Martin #1458 tonilfhs98@xxxx wrote: > What is a starter solenoid upgrade? How can I tell if I have that installed? > Thanks > Bill > #2157