***** Moderator's Note ***** This ends the trademark and logo discussion. ***** This is absolutely, unequivocally incorrect on SEVERAL POINTS. The only 'unnamed third party' that I can even think that Lee might be referring to is Ken Montgomery, Lee's 'point man' on the model project. I *never* told Ken that we would withdraw approval of the logo usage or attempt to block the completion of the models in any way. Never. I have teased Ken about the entire model project, and I know both he and Lee feel bad that the project has drawn out for so many years now. It's my understanding that personal events in Lee's and Ken's live have pushed back the timeframe. That's life, things happen and I don't think for an instant that either of them have put anything less than their best efforts into this. At the time Lee started this project, back in 1997 or 1998, DeLorean Motor Company did not have the rights to use the logo (apparently no one did). Lee's model project started before I was working for DeLorean Motor Company, and nothing was ever written as we had no rights to the logo. Nevertheless, after a quick phone conversation with Lee this afternoon, we've gone ahead and begun proceedings to give him whatever he feels he needs to finish the models. There was never any conversations with Lee or Ken about the trademark usage on the model or keys at the NCDMC event because we never considered there to be any problem with Lee's use of it. Both the keys and models are very high quality products. I don't recall the conversation with Lee about his keys and neither does Stephen. We have every intention of continuing to use him as a supplier for the molded head keys for the foreseeable future. For everyone's reference, if you ever have a question about anything relating to DeLorean Motor Company, I invite you to give me a call. All of this misunderstanding could have been avoided with a phone call. James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas 281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.delorean.com