Andy, no intention on bashing your car, but the vision from the rear view mirror should be able to see the gap between the top and 2nd louvers. What I noticed on your car and I've noticed on many other cars is that the interior headliner panel starts sagging (not the fabric, but rather the fiberboard) and blocks this view. Mine is doing this on the sides, and I'm going to reinforce it with a metal strip before I recover it. On many other DeLoreans what I have noticed is this same GM light (from thier line of SUVs, check it out next time your behind a Blazer) is that they mount it underneith the top louver, effectively hiding it completely untill your actually braking, much more streamlined in my opinion. You would either need to cut the louver brace or cut the LED assembly in half to do this though. In either case, it is a very effective light, and probably the best choice for any 3rd-light installations. Jim Reeve MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club DMC-6960 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, Soma576@xxxx wrote: > The previous owner of my car installed an LED 3rd brake light. it is a > generic GM-brand light i believe. very narrow and short, it mounts on the > 2nd from the top louver. when you sit in the car it is invisible because > that louver is directly in line with the line of vision obscured by the > interior ceiling.