Marc, Dude, there is no way I'd ever be able to do it again either... it's like one of those special sailing knots!!! -ben --- In dmcnews@xxxx, Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxx> wrote: > I always thought I had mine set up right, but when a bunch of us went to RI in > the fall this year, Ben asked me about this because his strap was not on. > > I went over to help him get it right, or so I thought.