This is not in defense of the moderators it is my opinion on how I feel about news concerning the NEW DeLorean. The original DMC-12 project started in 1974, Giorgetto Giugiaro was already under contract to handle the design of the DMC-12. By mid 75 detailed drawings and a styling mock-up were completed and the first prototype was begun. By early 76 negations with potential subcontractors was already begun and the automotive press began speculative publications. Since the DMC2 project was first mentioned I have yet to see any of the above developments. I applaud JZD and everyone who is interested in this speculative project but until concrete documented developments concerning the new project are fact I believe that the DML should continue its job of providing valuable information to owners and enthusiasts of the stainless steel gull-wing car that has become such an important part of all of our lives. "We're here to help you" DMC Joe / De Lorean Services / <dmcjoe@xxxx> Web Site: <www.deloreanservices.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: David B. Hill To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:07 AM Subject: RE: [DML] ADMIN:Poll result/DMC2 James & Dave: How can you say the list is for discussion of "the man" and exclude any discussion of the new car. Just because the car is speculative, that shouldn't preclude discussion. You allow speculative discussion of many other products, like accessories, motors, etc. I would say the discussion of the Northstar fell into this "speculative" category, but that was interesting and informative. Same for digital dashboard. As a long-time reader, I think that if moderators are patient (instead of dictatorial), the "stupid" postings (watches, etc) will decline, but still some new car nuggets will be added to the list. I found the mentions of the GQ article, for example, interesting to me as a DMC owner and list member, but evidently you would not allow that posting. I am a Republican in politics, but a little "d" democrat when it comes to free speech. Let's have a little of that here. My practical suggestion would be for moderators to "moderate" the watch discussion, but to allow the new car stuff to pass through their iron fingers. David Hill VIN 5197 -----Original Message----- From: James Espey [mailto:james@xxxx] Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:58 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] ADMIN:Poll result/DMC2 Hear, hear! As founder of the DML, moderator emeritus, and the original "Iron Hand", I agree with Dave Swingle. The list was started for discussion of the original car, company and man - not watches, or any new cars JZD may claim to be producing. That's a perfect subject for some energetic person to do with a DIFFERENT Egroups list. James Espey Moderator Emeritus DMC-News, the DeLorean Mailing List At 10:27 PM -0500 9/19/00, Dave Swingle wrote: >So far that's about all there is to know, again until something of substance >comes along let's keep the list to the facts - and the cars. . So - Short >answer - we'll limit postings on this topic to new information. If you don't >like this, feel free to start another list. > >Dave - getting better at this "Iron Hand" thing. . . . . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]