Boyz-n-Berries Sorry, I wasn't asking to reveal the secrets of breaking in to a "D". It's just that the way my luck has been running for the past day or so I'm bound to have a flat & not be able to get to the jack or the spare. I know about the "drill a hole through the bottom" bit, I just was looking for a somewhat less drastic solution. Beside which, I was informed about 1 PM, that today was my last day on a contract. So, I have to assume that the tire gods smiled upon me and I did not need to get into the trunk...... Richard