Erik Geerdink wrote: > Generaly, after how many miles would a Delorean seat start to show > wear? Without more information, this question is nearly impossible to answer. The seats are leather, and leather can wear out with age unless proper care is taken. This becomes much worse if the car is in the sun, but even some DeLoreans in museums have less than perfect leather. A year out in the sun, or inside under very high humidity, can destroy leather unless precautions are taken. > I ask this because a Delorean is for sale at an import car lot who > hates deloreans, and they don't like me very much now. They say it > has 4500 miles on it, but there is wear on the seats. You need to describe the wear better. Is the leather scuffed? Cracked? Faded? Also, how is the binnacle & dashboard? I suggest you find a better clue that the wear on the seats. Look at the pedals, for instance, or maybe the steering wheel. Does the car have its original Goodyears? How is the paint on the power window switches? > I looked at the Lambda counter and it reads 027 which is about 8,100 > miles. butI wouldn't think that after 8,100miles there would be wear on > the seat. I could easily believe that this car has either 4,500 miles or 8,100 miles on it, since most owners never drive their DeLoreans. There are plenty of DeLorean odometers that have undercounted mileage due to angle drive failures, but I believe those will also have undercounted lambda readings. > maybe I'm going to far and I should not think about it so hard, but I > really want to prove these people wrong. Chill out, Erik. You are probably overreacting. Go back and make nice - nice with the dealer, so when someone eventually buys the DeLorean you can find out about it and get the new owner to join your local club. - Mike Substelny VIN 01280, 7 years