Cleveland souvenir

[Printed Drinkware Company <drinkware@xxxx>]

Is there any interest in a souvenir clear acrylic glass, 16 oz., with a DeLorean logo --- 
wings up view, and some copy about Cleveland 2000? Cost would be $5.00 each, 
which should be a reasonable price for everyone. Since I'll be driving, there wouldn't 
be a lot of room. I need an idea of quantity required. To save room, please contact 
me directly at: drinkware@xxxx 

Permission from the organizers is formally requested, at this time, to supply these. 
Please contact me at my e-mail shown.

I may have room for a navigator. Applications are now being accepted!!
Marv. Stein
#4239

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>Topics in this digest:
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> 1. Re: Yokohama Speed rating
> From: "Michael C. Babb" <michael.babb@xxxx>
> 2. re: Yokohama Speed rating 
> From: "Jonathan Heslop" <gatewayaag@xxxx>
> 3. Re: muffler heat shield
> From: deloreanernst@xxxx
> 4. Re: New nose Bra
> From: deloreanernst@xxxx
> 5. Re: Maintenance Questions
> From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1@xxxx>
> 6. Re: Re: Blower Motor Reversed??
> From: billschaferabn@xxxx
> 7. Re: Blower Motor Reversed??
> From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxx>
> 8. Cleveland Driving Events: Eratta
> From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxx>
> 9. Cleveland Rapid Transit: Errata
> From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxx>
> 10. clutch
> From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502@xxxx>
> 11. Re: Rust 
> From: "James Teston" <orentha@xxxx>
> 12. LHD to RHD conversion
> From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12@xxxx>
> 13. Convoy to DMC 2000
> From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502@xxxx>
> 14. Re: clutch
> From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxx>
> 15. Re: muffler heat shield
> From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi@xxxx>
> 16. Re: Cleveland Driving Events: Eratta
> From: scottmueller@xxxx
> 17. Light switch bracket in engine compartment...
> From: njp548@xxxx
> 18. Re: muffler heat shield
> From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn@xxxx>
> 19. Stainless labels and other things...
> From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1@xxxx>
> 20. Re: Stainless labels and other things...
> From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxx>
> 21. Stainless muffler heat shield
> From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi@xxxx>
> 22. stainless steel labels
> From: "Michael C. Babb" <michael.babb@xxxx>
> 23. Re: muffler heat shield
> From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1@xxxx>
> 24. Re: Stainless labels and other things...
> From: Mike Jones <DreamCar_DMC-12@xxxx>
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>Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:23:26 -0600
> From: "Michael C. Babb" <michael.babb@xxxx>
>Subject: Re: Yokohama Speed rating
>
>The Yoko's I have had on my car for about 2 1/2 years are V rated. I
>believe this is standard for the AVS Intermediates.
>
>Michael Babb
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Reeve --Ultra--" <ultra@xxxx>
>To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 8:05 PM
>Subject: [DML] Yokohama Speed rating
>
>
>> I recently was searching through tirerack.com browsing for tires that
>> fit the size of the DeLorean. I came across the Yokohama AVS
>> Intermediate which we all know are the best tires currently available in
>> the stock sizes. But what I noticed was a speed rating on the 195/60 14
>> and 235/60 15 was "V" (149 mph). I always thought that they were "H"
>> (130 mph). Does anyone who has recently purchased these tires care to
>> say what the speed rating on their side wall is? I know that a stock
>> DeLorean can't really get above 130, but modified ones can. So this
>> just makes me curious and I'm sure owners of Turbo'ed and engine swapped
>> D's would like this too.
>> --
>> Jim Reeve <Ultra>
>> http://www.isd.net/jpatrick/
>> AIM-Ultra2169
>>
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>Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:31:03 -0500
> From: "Jonathan Heslop" <gatewayaag@xxxx>
>Subject: re: Yokohama Speed rating 
>
>Jim........
>
>The new set I just got from TireRack are V-rated. Can't wait to get them on
>the car. My old set were FireStones! uggggggggggg!!!!!
>
>--Jonathan
> #000697
>
>------------------------------------------
>
>I recently was searching through tirerack.com browsing for tires that
>fit the size of the DeLorean. I came across the Yokohama AVS
>Intermediate which we all know are the best tires currently available in
>the stock sizes. But what I noticed was a speed rating on the 195/60 14
>and 235/60 15 was "V" (149 mph). I always thought that they were "H"
>(130 mph). Does anyone who has recently purchased these tires care to
>say what the speed rating on their side wall is? I know that a stock
>DeLorean can't really get above 130, but modified ones can. So this
>just makes me curious and I'm sure owners of Turbo'ed and engine swapped
>D's would like this too.
>--
>
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>Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:41:52 EDT
> From: deloreanernst@xxxx
>Subject: Re: muffler heat shield
>
>In a message dated 4/24/00 10:32:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
>sean_dmc1@xxxx writes:
>
><< Need to replace my muffler heat shield, but DO NOT want the 
> original asbestos one. How is the stainless steel one? Any thoughts?
> >>
>
>Haven't seen it, but they say they're coming out with a new two layer one 
>that's even better. I grilled him about via e-mail. 
>PJ Grady has one that isn't stainless, but is more durable than the original. 
> Haven't seen that either, but I like everything I've seen from Grady!
>
>-Wayne
>"Living the Dream!"
>VIN...11174
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>Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:41:50 EDT
> From: deloreanernst@xxxx
>Subject: Re: New nose Bra
>
>In a message dated 4/22/00 9:09:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
>jpalatinus@xxxx writes:
>
><< Mine has bug flaps (triangular prisims) sticking up on both sides of the
> front of the car. >>
>
>Joe-
>Somebody just e-mailed me that they've seen ones with bug flaps in the De 
>Lorean 1 catalog. Maybe yours is from there. I have only been up to 50 a 
>few times since I got mine, but it doesn't flap in the breeze. I don't know 
>how it could. It hooks in 8 (or ten?) places and fits like my college jeans. 
>If I tried to put then on today. Well, better than that, actually! I'll 
>keep you posted on developments. I'll be putting a picture of mine in the 
>vault later this week.
>
>-Wayne
>"Living the Dream!"
>VIN...11174
>
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>Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:36:28 CDT
> From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1@xxxx>
>Subject: Re: Maintenance Questions
>
>Joe,
>
> The asbestos heat shield is a part I definately need so I can be sure 
>that my belts won't melt. I hope there is an alternative...I read about the 
>stainless steel one, but wouldn't this conduct more heat? Let me know what 
>your replacement part consists of. I will have the lines bled. I know this 
>was done in Jan. of this year at DMC Houston, but I will have it done again. 
>I haven't found any fluid leaking anywhere, so this might solve the problem. 
>If not, what should I do? I need this fixed before the May 6th weekend. I 
>have to drive the car back to Huntsville, AL then. Let me know what you 
>think I should do. Thanks again Joe!
>
>Sean
>VIN 7003
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>Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:38:57 EDT
> From: billschaferabn@xxxx
>Subject: Re: Re: Blower Motor Reversed??
>
>Dan,
>
> I would like to know the fix as well. I have the same problem but haven't 
>had time to address it as my D is in storage. Please forward your fix. I have 
>a fax as well if you need that # let me know.
>
>
>Bill # 1596
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>Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 13:42:14 -0000
> From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle@xxxx>
>Subject: Re: Blower Motor Reversed??
>
>The "reverse the wires" comment was not very complete - I should have 
>added the statement that "it is common for the wires to be hooked up 
>backwards (by prior service people/owners) so they need to be 
>switched back to make them correct." (this was in the original 
>archive). I agree - if you make the fan housing the "hot" side there 
>would be a bit of a hazard of accidentally grounding it at a later 
>date. Fuses would blow. 
>
>I'm curious about Dan's other method of correcting a blower that 
>truly spins the wrong direction. 
>
>Dave
>
>
>--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Danrc30" <Danrc30@xxxx> wrote:
>> Reversing the wires is not recommended. I had the same problem as 
>you, and
>> DMC Joe explained to me that when the wires are reversed, the motor 
>could
>> cause a short circuit if anything metal touches it. It's unlikely 
>that
>> anything would, but it is possible... especially if you are doing 
>something
>> under there with a screwdriver.
>
>> ---Dan
>> 
>> 
>> > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, Stephen Jarvis <jarvist@xxxx> wrote:
>The
>> > > problem had once been diagnosed as the fan running backwards, 
>and I
>> > finally
>> > [snip]
>
>> >
>> > You can just reverse the wires. This was covered in several
>> > discussions a couple of years ago (search the archives 
>on "blower"),
>> > but no one has mentioned it in a while. Apparently it's easy to 
>hook
>> > it up backwards, and it often happens (blame the prior owner). No
>> > need to replace anything.
>> >
>> > Dave
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>Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:55:08 -0400
> From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxx>
>Subject: Cleveland Driving Events: Eratta
>
>As someone pointed out to me, there was a potentially confusing typo in my 
message
>yesterday. It just proves that you should never be your own proofreader.
>
>The Orientation to Cleveland Cruise to the cocktail party departs THURSDAY 
EVENING
>6:00 - 7:30 PM from the Holiday Inn.
>
>The Driving Tour / Rallye departs FRIDAY MORNING 9:30 - 10:00 AM from the 
street
>behind the Great Lakes Science Center. (My typo said Thursday morning. Oops).
>
>For these events it will be perfectly fine to drive a non-DeLorean. However, we
>strongly recommend that you do not drive alone. While it is theoretically possible
>to find your way simply by listening to our audio tapes, we designed the tour
>expecting each car to have a map reader. Thus people in rental cars would be 
better
>off finding a DeLorean in need of a navigator.
>
>- Mike Substelny
>
>
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>Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:00:21 -0400
> From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxx>
>Subject: Cleveland Rapid Transit: Errata
>
>Ken Koncelik wrote:
>
>> The airport . . . is Cleveland Hopkins airport. You
>> really don't need a rental car . Use the rapid transit that you
>> can catch right at the airport and get off at the East 9th st stop.
>> This is less than a two minute walk.
>
>Ken is describing Cleveland's commuter train system, the RTA Rapid Transit. He
>is correct in stating that there is a stop right inside Hopkins Airport and
>another stop very close to the hotel. The airport stop is very convenient,
>closer to your plane than the parking lot, taxi stand, or rental car companies.
>The fare is only $1.50 and the ride downtown is faster than driving.
>
>However, the same train line does not connect both places! To make the trip Ken
>describes, you need to change trains in the main station at Tower City / Public
>Square. You can change trains for free if you ask for a transfer when you pay
>your fare.
>
>A free PDF map is available here:
>
>http://little.nhlink.net/~rta/index.html
>
>The map is called "RTA Rapid Transit System Map (73k)." On this map, the
>airport is at stop #18 on the Red Line. The Tower City/Public Square transfer
>point is stop #9 on all lines. The Holiday Inn is near stop #47, called "East
>9th Street" on the Waterfront Line.
>
>When you get off the train, you will see Lake Erie to the North. Walk one block
>south to Lakeside, then one block East to the Holiday Inn.
>
>If anyone has any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
>
>- Mike Substelny
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>Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:01:33 -0000
> From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502@xxxx>
>Subject: clutch
>
>I'm going to be replacing my clutch before the DMC 2000 show and was 
>wondering what the list thought of the Centerforce Clutch for the 
>Delorean. I've only talk to one other person about the Centerforce 
>and he loves it. Any other comments? Also, while I'm at it I'm 
>replacing the clutch line and master/slave cylinder. Does anybody 
>have a NEW master and slave cylinder for sale?
>On the PJ grady website they have a link adjuster kit, has anybody 
>installed this and is it worth it? 
>I'm figuring since I'm removing the transmission anyway, why not 
>replace anything that might go wrong in the future.
>
>BTW: does the engine have to come out to replace the clutch? I heard 
>that somewhere. Also, what model number is the 5 speed transmission?
> 
>I'd like to tell my mechanic what it is. thanks for the help!
>
>Erik Geerdink
>4512
>
>
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>Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:19:00 -0000
> From: "James Teston" <orentha@xxxx>
>Subject: Re: Rust 
>
>I was thinking about using POR-15 for my frame too, And I was 
>wondering if anyone has had any experiences with it? According to 
>their website www.por15.com it seems like a good ( ecomonical ) 
>solution to a rusty frame... I would appreciate any feedback if 
>anyone has used this.
>Thanks a lot.
>James 15314
>
>
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>Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:16:41 +0100
> From: "Vin#5462" <dmc12@xxxx>
>Subject: LHD to RHD conversion
>
>Hi All
>
>I live in England and am seriously considering converting my Left hand drive
>automatic DeLorean to a right hand drive. The dash board has split in half
>and so I intend to make a new one but reversed for RHD and then move the
>pedals, hand brake, steering and instruments over to the right. I am a
>fairly confident mechanic and having looked closely at the current layout it
>does not look too hard. Can the steering rack be run upside down, (I see no
>reason why not since it is a simple rack and pinion set-up)
>
>Are there any particular difficulties with this operation or anything
>specific which may require major structural work??
>
>Has anyone performed this operation themselves, and if so what problems did
>you incur?
>
>any help would be most appreciated, should I go ahead with the conversion I
>intend to create an accurate manual of how it was done in order to allow
>other DeLorean owners to follow suit.
>
>With thanks
>James
>
>
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>Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 20:08:03 -0000
> From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502@xxxx>
>Subject: Convoy to DMC 2000
>
>time is getting closer to DMC 2000 and its about time to think about 
>starting up convoys. Would anybody traveling thru the Michigan, 
>Illinois, Indiana area like to meet up somewhere along the way? 
>
>Erik Geerdink
>4512
>wanna see pics of two rare cars side by side? Check out the pictures 
>of my 1981 Delorean and my room mates 1967 Alfa Romeo Duetto. 
>http://members.xoom.com/michdeloclub/main/alfaDelo/DeloRomeo.htm
>
>
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>Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:21:48 -0500
> From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxx>
>Subject: Re: clutch
>
>I've been running with the Centerforce clutch for two years and find it
>works great. I would recommend getting Rob Grady's adjustable link as the
>centerforce will change the pedal free play a bit. Don't skimp with the
>clutch master and slave cyls. The slave is a real bugger to install and your
>idea about doing it with the tranny out is a good one. By new ones from one
>of the DeLorean suppliers.The tranny comes out without the engine needing to
>be removed. My son-in-law owns a repair shop and we used his hoist to do the
>job. He had replaced an Audi clutch the day before and commented about the
>DeLorean being a much less complicated job.
>
>Bruce Benson
>
>
>> wondering what the list thought of the Centerforce Clutch for the
>> Delorean. I've only talk to one other person about the Centerforce
>
>> On the PJ grady website they have a link adjuster kit, has anybody
>> installed this and is it worth it?
>> I'm figuring since I'm removing the transmission anyway, why not
>> replace anything that might go wrong in the future.
>>
>> BTW: does the engine have to come out to replace the clutch? >
>
>>
>> Erik Geerdink
>> 4512
>
>
>
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>Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:12:27 -0400
> From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi@xxxx>
>Subject: Re: muffler heat shield
>
>About a year and a half ago, I made a two layered heat shield to replace the
>torn-up asbestos one. I included a "lip" on the bottom to aid in pulling
>air in-between the stainless sheets for reducing the heat transfer between
>the sheets. I have not had any problems, however, I do need to add a spacer
>in one location as the stainless sheets tend to contact each other due to
>lack of support in that area (center/top area of the shield). It also looks
>pretty good.
>
>Sean Howley
>VIN#2345
>
>> Haven't seen it, but they say they're coming out with a new two layer one
>> that's even better. I grilled him about via e-mail.
>> PJ Grady has one that isn't stainless, but is more durable than the
>original.
>> Haven't seen that either, but I like everything I've seen from Grady!
>
>
>
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>Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:25:08 US/Central
> From: scottmueller@xxxx
>Subject: Re: Cleveland Driving Events: Eratta
>
>Mike, My co-pilot/navigator will be my 5 year old son. He is doing well with his 
reading,
>but multi-syllable words still present a challenge for him. Please make the directions
>simple.
>
>Scott Mueller
>
>However, we
>> strongly recommend that you do not drive alone. While it is theoretically possible
>> to find your way simply by listening to our audio tapes, we designed the tour
>> expecting each car to have a map reader. Thus people in rental cars would be 
better
>> off finding a DeLorean in need of a navigator.
>> 
>> - Mike Substelny
>
>
>
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>Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 20:06:11 EDT
> From: njp548@xxxx
>Subject: Light switch bracket in engine compartment...
>
>Hey List,
>
> Yesterday I removed the light switch bracket (fig. 20 3-5-2) in the 
>engine compartment and as I was removing the bottom nut, the rachet was on an 
>angle and i twisted the stud off. I already have the rear bulkhead assembly 
>off so I have access behind that right now. There is foam thats covering the 
>fiberglass body behind the rear bulkhead but I think that the 2 studs are 
>connected to a metal plate and the metal plate is held in place by the foam 
>on the fiberglass. I was just wondering where I can get that metal plate 
>with the studs on it or how would I be able to fix this problem? Thanks for 
>the help!
>
>Later,
>Nick
>VIN#1852
>
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>Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:18:08 PDT
> From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn@xxxx>
>Subject: Re: muffler heat shield
>
>Sean:
>Do you have pictures of this posted anywhere? If not, can you post some? 
>Many would be interested in this seeing how the sheilds fall apart over 
>time.
>Brian 16584
>
>>About a year and a half ago, I made a two layered heat shield to replace 
>>the
>>torn-up asbestos one. I included a "lip" on the bottom to aid in pulling
>>air in-between the stainless sheets for reducing the heat transfer between
>>the sheets. I have not had any problems, however, I do need to add a 
>>spacer
>>in one location as the stainless sheets tend to contact each other due to
>>lack of support in that area (center/top area of the shield). It also 
>>looks
>>pretty good.
>
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>Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 20:41:28 CDT
> From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1@xxxx>
>Subject: Stainless labels and other things...
>
>
>Group,
>
> I have decided to buy the heat shield from PJ Grady. I am VERY 
>interested in the one from DeLorean Steel Products, so I might do that as 
>well. What I really want is the stainless lables that were for sale on ebay 
>a while back....where can I get these? If not, I need to buy a label set 
>from Houston. Any help here guys? I will keep you informed on what I do 
>about my brakes. Also, I do not have the usual clock next to the dash light 
>dimmer. Is this the way it is supposed to be? I mean there isn't even a 
>hole. All the DeLoreans I have seen before had the clock. Any ideas? Also, 
>what is the update to the dash lighting at night that I have been hearing 
>about? What use are the amber lights? Thanks guys!
>
>Sean
>VIN 7003
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>Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:03:26 -0500
> From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxx>
>Subject: Re: Stainless labels and other things...
>
>.The late '81's had a Craig radio with a clock in the tape deck door. This
>change happened around vin # 6158. I'm not sure how many of Craig radios
>with the clock ended up being installed.
>
>Bruce Benson
>
>
>> Also, I do not have the usual clock next to >the dash light
>> dimmer. Is this the way it is supposed to be? I mean there isn't even a
>> hole. All the DeLoreans I have seen before had the clock. Any ideas? >
>> Sean
>> VIN 7003
>>
>
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>Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:07:52 -0400
> From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi@xxxx>
>Subject: Stainless muffler heat shield
>
>I do not have any pictures of it right now, but I will take some tomorrow
>and post them asap. However, this will take a couple of days. Once they
>are ready, I will let you all know and I will place them in the vault.
>
>Sean Howley
>VIN#2345
>
>
>> Do you have pictures of this posted anywhere? If not, can you post some?
>> Many would be interested in this seeing how the sheilds fall apart over
>> time.
>
>
>
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>Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 20:18:07 -0600
> From: "Michael C. Babb" <michael.babb@xxxx>
>Subject: stainless steel labels
>
>I purchased a set of the stainless steel labels off of ebay about a year ago. If you 
can find a set, I think they are a nice addition to the car. . .but be warned, they were 
made in the mid 80's, so the adheasive doesn't play well and you will probably have 
to use a heat gun to get the paper backing off. I will try to post a few pics of the 
labels on my car in a few days . . .
>
>Michael Babb
>
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>Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 21:36:44 CDT
> From: "Sean Spurlock" <sean_dmc1@xxxx>
>Subject: Re: muffler heat shield
>
>I'll try and get pics of the shredded heat shield. I just ordered the PJ 
>grady replacement. It looks like a belt broke and just shredded the shield. 
>Asbestos was all over the engine, and I am still trying to clean it all up. 
>I have no idea how long it has been like this since I just bought the car 
>last weekend. Thanks guys!!!
>
>Sean
>VIN 7003
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>>From: "Lynn Metz" <metzlynn@xxxx>
>>Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: [DML] muffler heat shield
>>Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:18:08 PDT
>>
>>Sean:
>>Do you have pictures of this posted anywhere? If not, can you post some?
>>Many would be interested in this seeing how the sheilds fall apart over
>>time.
>>Brian 16584
>>
>> >About a year and a half ago, I made a two layered heat shield to replace
>> >the
>> >torn-up asbestos one. I included a "lip" on the bottom to aid in pulling
>> >air in-between the stainless sheets for reducing the heat transfer 
>>between
>> >the sheets. I have not had any problems, however, I do need to add a
>> >spacer
>> >in one location as the stainless sheets tend to contact each other due to
>> >lack of support in that area (center/top area of the shield). It also
>> >looks
>> >pretty good.
>>
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>Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:29:19 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Mike Jones <DreamCar_DMC-12@xxxx>
>Subject: Re: Stainless labels and other things...
>
>My friends D is vin #6885 and his has the clock on the tape deck door
>
>Mike
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><..The late '81's had a Craig radio with a clock in the tape deck door. This
>change happened around vin # 6158. I'm not sure how many of Craig radios
>with the clock ended up being installed.>
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