No argument here, Joe. Sorry if my post seemed to belittle our OEM horns. My horns were 18 years old, very tired and have surely seen too much of the "elements". I'm sure the OEM's sound great new. I was just happy to find an adequate replacement set at a good price at a Nationally known car parts store. As for the Horn relay, Do our cars have a horn relay? and do you think the replacement that came with the new horns is worth keeping? Tom #5732 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ DMC JOE Wrote: In defense of the OEM horns and just for the record you should know that they sound great when they are new. After 18 years of being exposed to the elements they gradually loose sound quality and volume. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@xxxx>