DMC Wannabe, Here are the facts. In February and March of 1981, for quality control purposes, several hundred inner body / chassis cars, known in the factory as "black cars", were built for training purposes. Although there were less than 500 of these training units it was decided to start the regular production numbers at 500. So although these cars were never completed they did have ID (vin's) numbers somewhere between 1 and 500. As far as your comment that "The reporters claimed the DeLorean was "a worthless piece of junk that would be best left in the garbage can". This is completely untrue. Yes, there was some criticism and speculation, but nothing like you described. We have copies of all the reviews from all of the automotive writers and industry magazines during that period of time. Actually most of the comments were positive. Your friend may have credability but his rendition of DeLorean history is very inaccurate. DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@xxxx> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address moderator@xxxx