Even rivetting them on is ridiculous from our point of view here. Each car needs to have the VIN stamped into the frame to get a german licence. Of course this is a little bit strange on a car where the fram can be swapped like that. But still better than drilling out some pop rivets and gluing on the new VIN plate. Has this meanwhile been changed ? Elvis I'm really curious about the 'glued' on VIN plates. In all the years I was with Ford VIN plate pop rivets were of a unique color, shape and size. They were, until a couple of years ago, kept under lock and key and unavailable for the public to purchase. This was done ( however futile an attempt as it was ) to make swapping VIN plates difficult. How a manufacturer in 1982 got away with gluing them on is a question that would be interesting to have answered. Bruce Benson To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/