--- James <james@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: <SNIP> > I don't recall telling him that, but what I *would* > tell him today, > and think more likely that I would have told him > then was that if he > wanted to NOT lose the 2 points for the exhaust, it > needed to be changed. Even today, after we have yet to find any 17000 vin cars with a 1982 style muffler on it, You want to sell a $500 muffler to someone who does not need one? I think this proves my point. <SNIP> > 5.75 points separated the top three finishers in the > 2000 event, so it > shows that details matter. Questioning the outcome > impugns the > credibility of the judges (Mike Substelny, Knut > Grimsrud, Bill > Swilley, Ken Montgomery, Patti Substelny and Marty > Maier) and deserves > an apology. Please don't put words in my mouth. I have to face these people at the next show. This is a nasty debate tactic and frankly YOU owe all of those people, and me an apology. At no point did I question the credibility of the judges. They did their job, and judged the cars using a manual which DMCH provided based on self appointed authority. It is the manual that I have always found fault with. I clearly remember you (James) and Stephen having final decision on any items that were unclear in the book. The wiper blades on Tom's car for example, where Stephen ruled in Tom's favor. <SNIP> I'd like to thank all of the private support I have been receiving on this topic. But want to publicly complain that I have to again be the "lightning rod" on a issue that people are afraid to challenge the status quo on. You can all speak your opinions publicly, quick while we still have the first amendment in place. Meanwhile, we have been talking about the tail pipes on 17000 vin cars for a while now. Clearly, they have 1981 style mufflers on them (for whatever reason). Will the manual be updated before the next event? Does it matter? Out of estimated 120 fine examples of DeLoreans in Pigeon Forge, only 2 participated in the Concours event. IMHO, that is representation of the failure of DeLorean concours competition. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/