Hi EJ. (Short answer first: I use 3M Finishing Pads--love 'em. Gave up on Scotch Brites some time ago. Interested to hear other opinions--a lot of folks use sandpaper, but that just sounds creepy to me. Read further at own peril.) Not a dumb question at all. Ever hear owners and onlookers gripe the finish because it gets "dirty-looking" or "dingy" so easily, especially on cloudy days? It's not always because of dirt, and there's nothing inherently wrong with brushed stainless. Your car can stay shiny bright for long periods between baths, and IMHO, it all has to do with blending technique. When I first had my car, it gleamed wonderfully, but after using the gray Scotch Brite pads that came in the OEM cleaning kit, I noticed the finish looked a lot duller. Hm. Decided to approach the job as if I were matching panels when building kitchen cabinets. When you do this, you don't just look for smoothness and color. The real trick is one I've not seen in the judging criteria for Concours DeLorean--evenness of luminence. Not surprising. Car guys think in terms of paint, issues like hue and focus, but we don't generally work with grained surfaces like really first-class wood. So I tried a different approach. Ideally, once again IMHO, when you walk around your car on a cloudy day, when the light is diffuse and the most even, all the metal should have equal lightness or be equally bright. The only changes should come from reflections and from the contours of the car so it shows off the sometimes delicate nuance of the form. As this car doesn't swoop like a drunken Maranello, you really need a first-class finish to bring out the subtle beauty of the shape, or it can look pretty plain-jane, even after you break your arm shining it. That's because stray bright spots can actually camouflage all the cool shapes, and the car doesn't look "shiny." A few easy steps: 1) The blending pad. The OEM DMC pad was, as far as my fingers can tell, a gray Scotch Brite. I had mediocre success with them, and they were bad pokey if you had scratches. Life and looks improved markedly when I switched to 3M Finishing Pads, the kind you use for woodwork. Now I use one with a bit more agressive grit, though it's been so long since I bought them I'm not sure which one--100s or 120s, maybe? Just a tad more tooth than the OEM blenders, whatever that is. In any event, a contractor friend of mine saw my D by the sidewalk one day and remarked how shiny it was, and how nice the grain looked. As my buddy is renowned for his woodwork, I took that as some validation of technique. (As it happened, it was parked in front of another friend's guitar shop, and they had seen it just the day prior, before the rubdown. Everybody noticed the bright finish, even the bookeeper. Jeez, all that just for an amp cord.) 2) Blend each panel in its entirety, not in sections. Had a "pro DMC detailer" do my car a few years ago, (it had been scratched in several places) and the poor thing came home with blotchy squares all over it that flashed like cheap Contac paper when you walked by. It looked positively dour on cloudy days. I could tell he did each panel in sections. To do it right it takes long strokes, and you'll rock back and forth like a parrot on a perch to reach both ends of most of the panels. The neighbors will titter. That said, if you really need to concentrate on a trouble spot, do the spot a bit, then blend the whole panel, then do the spot some more, then blend, etc. Otherwise, you can really build yourself a chore trying to make the job look like one piece. On the subject of unified finish, walk around the car and watch the light--make sure the luminance matches from panel to panel too. 3) Make relatively straight strokes, following the factory grain. The "pro" that did my car apparently stood in one spot when he did my roof, gouging huge stationary arcs in the tops of my doors, and it was way ugly in bright sun. He also followed the curve in the fender flares, making my wheel wells look like they had milk mustaches. Yikes. The straight-stroke technique takes patience and practice when you first learn it, so take your time. You'll catch yourself taking the path of least resistance on the fender flares. The hardest part is on the A and B pillars, but those are some of the most showy surfaces on the car. 4) Use fairly light pressure. If you press too hard, particularly on the hood, you'll press the metal onto the composite frame underneath, and the finish will be noticeably brighter in those spots. I've seen quite a few D's with big shiny "X's" on the hood. How hard to push? Imagine it this way: if your hand was on a puppy laying on the floor, and you pressed hard enough to make him yelp, you'd probably be pushing too hard. (No puppies were harmed in the making of this post.) Okay, maybe a big puppy. 5) When you do this job, run your garden hose on the panel while you work, sort of like wet sanding. It seems to get scratches out quicker, it gets the oxide and dirt out of the grain, and washing the residue off as you go makes it easy to see the luminance we're looking for. It also makes the neighbors think you're washing your car, which they'll commend you for, instead of sanding it, which they'll peek at you through the blinds for. So how stinkin' long does this take? Last time I decided to resuscitate my finish, I did the entire car in a leisurely two hours on a nice sunny afternoon--easier than a wash and wax. Besides, you don't do it very often anyway. But then JZD did want this car to be nice to its owners... Happy sanding. --Ray 10693 and Counting. --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "EJ Chambers" <marmieej@xxxx> wrote: > Hello All: > > This may be a stupid question, but for graining the SS panels, can you > use the green scotch brite pads you can buy in any store? What is the > difference between these and the ones the vendors sell? > > Thanks! > Ej > 4475 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/