A few weeks ago someone asked why a particular VIN number would come up as invalid, when they were *sure* the VIN was correct. I've recently run into the same problem with a car we are considering buying, and Carfax has confirmed that if they do not have any data on a particular VIN, it will be returned as "invalid". The particular car I had the problem with is a never registered "MSO" car. MSO means "manufacturer's statement of origin", the document that is used to get a title when a car is first sold. Hope this helps... James Espey ------------------------------------ DeLorean Motor Company Vice President james@xxxxxxxxxxxx 15023 Eddie Drive Humble, Texas 77396 USA tel: 800/872-3621 tel2:281/441-2537 fax: 281/441-2813 http://www.delorean.com ------------------------------------ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 7/12/2004 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/