On that same note, a friend of mine was once at a car show where there were doing concourse judging for several Chrysler vehicles. One guy who had an early 70's B Body had gotton marked off points for incorrect washer fluid color. After arguing with the judge, the guy pulled out his drivers license, build sheet, and several old pay check stubs. When they compared signatures, it was indeed proved that he himself was the one whom had signed-off on his own car @ the factory when he built it! And as he blatantly put it, workers only concerns are to install what they have on the build sheet. And sometimes the lack of specific parts on hand at the time will result in lack of certain builds, as well as the use of substituted parts, per what certain specs require. Workers' only concern @ the factories are to assemble cars, and get them out asap. When building a car, workers don't say to themselves, "20 years from now, will this car meet the stringent requirements of a concourse competition?" This is the last possible concern assembly line workers have. So what's actually original, and what's "considered" original can be two seperate things. DeLorean specific, the question that I'd have is in regard to accessories. Granted, I wasn't there when authorized dealers were selling DeLoreans off their lots, so I've no idea as to what went on. BUT, every car that I have ever seen on a lot will have 2 seperate stickers. The MSRP factory which states what comes standard/optional, and a secondary one which lists additional charges for Dealer Prep, and Dealer Installed Accessories, etc... The problem that I'm seeing here is that the Millennum Concours manual does NOT differentiate between "Dealer Accessories", and "Dealer >Installed< Accessories". If you've got a Luggage Rack installed, and NO delivery sheet to prove that it was an accessory that was installed @ the Dealership prior to delivery/purchage, shouldn't that be considered for a repremand for points deduction since the car has been modified by the owner(s)? -Robert vin 6585 "X" --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mike.griese@xxxx wrote: > Marc - the process DMCH uses is not very different than > how the Mustang Club of America or the National Corvette > Restorers Society run their concours events. The To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/