[DML] Concours Competiton

["malevy_nj" <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

and car prices are set by what someone is willing to sell it for, or 
pay for it.

Why would anyone assume that the concours cars are the "pristine" 
or "ideal"??  Because a particular judge has the opinion that it is?  
Because it is the one that most closely matches a semi-accurate 
book?  I think the educated buyer knows better.... At least I hope 
they do. The plain and simple fact is that SOME people judge the 
value of a car based on a Concours winner, people who don't know any 
better or people buying a car based on what they can resell it for.

Even if a Concours winner sold for $100K tomorrow, It would have 
little to no impact on what anyone else (including previous winners) 
REALISTICALLY could get for theirs.  Heck, "ONE" vendor sells 
restored cars for $60K...  has it made the value of the rest of our 
cars go up?  I don't think so, even though the people who paid $60K 
for one of those cars says (with their checkbook) that they ARE worth 
$60K!   

We agree, that the way this event is handled does have an impact on 
the entire DeLorean community.   I feel it is more in the image the 
community wants to have, and not the value of our cars..  The 
Concours event (as it has been done in the past) presents the image 
that we are a bunch of nuts who need to have "matching numbers" (Yea, 
I know this does not apply to DeLoreans, but it is how many other 
snobbish car clubs do it) on a car for it to be worth anything... and 
if you dont have it, then you are a second class citizen.

Until Ken K came along, this was how I saw things... and I had never 
been to any DeLorean event for the first 6 years of my ownership 
until Ken had his show in 1998 and invited daily drivers.  I just 
wish I could convince Ken that he does not need the Concours event at 
all..  Does anyone go to these shows FOR the Concours?  Ken's shows 
are about the people, which is why I have yet to miss one (even 
though I know there is a long list of people who would love to kick 
my ass!)


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@xxxx> 
wrote:
> Like it or nor, agree with me or not, the plain and simple fact of
> life is EVERY car marque is judged by it's concours. It is the
> benchmark and the standard against which every other car of that
> marque is judged. It is what sets the top value for a "pristine"
> example and what constitutes the "ideal". Like a beauty contest. My
<SNIP>




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