Re: [DML] Re: Michelin Pilot Tire Pressures

[kayoong@xxxxxxx]

I would like to share my findings with "all seasons" tires with the 
DeLoreans.

The Michelin Pilot tires are the best tires for DeLorean that is currently on 
the market.   IMO, they are the only way to go, for as they are the best and 
finest tires for DeLoreans that I have used.   I do believe Michelin company 
did their homework and they have did their research before they released the 
Pilots as "dedicated" tires for the DeLoreans motorcars several years ago.   
They knew about the fading market of tires for the DeLorean motorcars and they 
took the quest to meet the "demands."   Kudos to them.

Before I go any further and for everyone's reference, I had the NCTs (they 
came with the car and had 11,000 miles on them), Dunlops, Pirellis, two sets of 
Yokohamas AVSs and the Pilots. 
 
The NCTs that came with the DeLorean is old, hard and old technology.   
Beside myself and a very good friend mine, we both had to change from the NCTs, for 
they are mediocre in performance and they were   hard riding and they are 
poor if not terrible in the rain and snow.   Maybe because they are old. 

The Dunlops?   As for their working characteristics, they are mediocre.   I 
didn't like them within the first one hundred miles of running.   I didn't like 
them and I had them removed and replaced by the Pirellis as soon as I could.  
The Dunlops that I had on my DeLorean had the same "performance" 
characteristics and traits as the set that was on my older Bentley although they were 
different models.   I also had them removed off the Bentley in less then a year of 
ownership.   For me both models of the Dunlops were mushy with too much road 
feel, they are not great in cornering and handling, especially with the 
Bentley -- a very heavy car.

The Pirellis where excellent tires all around.   They are good in the rain 
and in the snow.   I remember when I drove back from Alabama to NYC and it 
started to snow lightly and then heavily from Virginia to the New Jersey turnpike.  
 Getting close to NYC on the NJ Turnpike, there was an accumulation of three 
inches of snow and the Pirellis handle it very well!   It was a "go" with very 
little slip or slide.   Love them.   When I needed an another set of 
Pirellis, they were no longer available, so I got the Yokos AVS.   The Pirellis are 
only edged out by the Pilots.

The Yokos were good and they rode well, but they wore out very quickly.   
They were mediocre in the rain, and they were terrible in the snow!  Useless!   
IMO, they are the worst as tires for the DeLorean in the snow next to the NCTs. 
  They couldn't even track in less then one inch of snow!   They slip and 
slide away in the snow.   Now, some of you may be wondering why I had two sets of 
the Yokos?   One of the reasons why I had two sets of them is because they 
WERE the only tires available for sale on the market at that time and the other 
reason is that the other tires, if they were available, they did not meet the 
all of the DeLorean's specs.   So, when one can't select, then one has to 
settle for what is available.   Personally, I can never get used to how the Yokos 
look with the DeLorean's body line flow.   To me, they always IMO looks "fat."

The Michelin Pilots are presently on my DeLorean for over a year and they the 
best that I have experienced with the DeLorean.   On dry road... they are 
excellent!   They are also good in the rain and in the snow.   They are excellent 
in ride comfort and handling.   They are smooth and soft riding and 
responsive and they don't slip on one inch of snow as with the two sets of Yokos AVS.   
It must be the new rubber compound and the engineering that is available 
today?   The Pilots out performs the Yokohomas and they just "edges" over the 
Pirellis, which I though was an excellent tire all around.

I don't like to put on snow tires for winter use and I normally don't run my 
DeLorean in the snow.   Because I do use my DeLorean as a daily driver and 
should it when it starts to rain or snow during my travels, I would like my 
DeLorean or any vehicle I am in to be on the "go."   Hydroplaning and slipping on 
less then one inch of snow is not good or acceptable for "all season" tires.

I hope my findings helps.

Kayo Ong
#5508
Lic 9D NY

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In a message dated 2/13/04 11:05:02 PM, jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:


> I recently (and reluctantly) retired my NCT's. They only had 6,000
> miles on them and NO cracks. They looked excellant to the eye inside
> and outside. I put the Michelen Pilots on at Rob Grady's
> recomendation. I was instantly thrilled with the improved ride and
> performance. I suspect the NCT's hardened with age and the Pilots are
> a superior and more modern technology. I am using 23 psi for the front
> and 30 psi in the rear. It may not be optimum but it is a place to
> start. I am monitoring the tread wear with a tread wear gauge so I
> know I am getting even contact across the with of the tire tread. I
> don't put enough mileage on my car to get a quick indication of how
> things are wearing so this would be better tested by someone who is
> using their "D" as a daily driver. You need to understand what the air
> pressure does to the "footprint" of the tire so you can understand how
> the pressure in the tire affects treadwear. There are many websites
> you can go to for further info about tires and tire pressure. Don't
> forget the spare. Reseal it so it can hold 60 psi for more than 3
> days. Get a GOOD tire pressure gauge and a tread wear gauge.
> Compensate for temperature and ALWAYS check the tires cold at least
> once a month.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757
> 



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