To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 12 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. RE: Re: R-12 to R134A swap From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller@xxxxxxxxx> 2. Re: Need repair help in Atlanta From: "paul_salsbury <paul.salsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxx>" <paul.salsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 3. Re: Need repair help in Atlanta From: "content22207 <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 4. Re: Need repair help in Atlanta From: dherv10@xxxxxxx 5. Re: Need repair help in Atlanta From: "d_rex_2002 <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 6. "Baby Pictures" From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean@xxxxxxxxx> 7. Re: Need repair help in Atlanta From: "Charlie g <charlie_az@xxxxxxxxxxx>" <charlie_az@xxxxxxxxxxx> 8. Re: Need repair help in Atlanta From: AJL521@xxxxxxx 9. Re: Need repair help in Atlanta From: "David Teitelbaum <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx>" <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx> 10. additional plate (answer) From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx 11. Update Pigoen Forge From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx 12. Re: Need repair help in Atlanta From: Bob Brandys <BobB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:15:02 -0600 From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Re: R-12 to R134A swap I just read the article that Dave provided. One question that I have is what size are the o-rings that you replaced. A parts list would be great. Thanks for the good information. Scott Mueller 002981 RNDOLA -----Original Message----- From: Dave Swingle <swingle@xxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:swingle@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 2:07 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Re: R-12 to R134A swap Funny you should ask.... Dave Stragand just did a nice tech writeup on this. http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/R134.html ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:34:45 -0000 From: "paul_salsbury <paul.salsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxx>" <paul.salsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Need repair help in Atlanta This is a carbon copy of the issue I had last week. I had my starter re-furbished, ie cleaned new bushes, winding checked etc, it now starts on the button. If you can'y get this done it's probably a new starter.... Paul #6463 www.paul.salsbury.btinternet.com --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mfdpa@xxxx wrote: > I have a 1983 that I believe has a bad starter. I have 13 volts on the dash meter and when I turn the key I hear the fuel pump and the relay behind the passenger seat and I hear a loud click from the engine bay (the solenoid?) but the engine does not turn. Jumping does not help. > > > Michael ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:47:33 -0000 From: "content22207 <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Need repair help in Atlanta Take the starter to a parts house with test stand (most chains have one). If it's bad, order replacement from D vendor or perhaps John Hervey could rebuild. If car is straight drive and you've got a couple of friends handy, just try a push start. Even faster and easier diagnosis. Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mfdpa@xxxx wrote: > I have a 1983 that I believe has a bad starter. > Thanks for any help. > > Michael ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:56:42 EST From: dherv10@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Need repair help in Atlanta Michael, Byrn Heninger is in Gainsville. 770-536-2410. He can take care of your problems. John Hervey www.specialTauto.com << I have a 1983 that I believe has a bad starter. Thanks for any help. Michael ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:39:46 -0000 From: "d_rex_2002 <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Need repair help in Atlanta Michael, If you do not want to (or cannot) attempt some troubleshooting, try to contact someone from a nearby or local Delorean club to help you check out other possible causes for this problem. This problem may be due to a bad ground (or dirty ground) which may be a simple fix. Don't forget to check DMCNEWS Tech page, www.dmcnews.com/techmain.htm for Delorean troubleshooting recommendations and the DML archives on bad and dirty grounds. I think DMC Joe is more pre-occupied with other things right now, but may not be too busy to offer advice. Later, Rich W. --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mfdpa@xxxx wrote: > I have a 1983 that I believe has a bad starter. > Thanks for any help. > > Michael ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:57:59 -0800 (PST) From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: "Baby Pictures" To all, 20 years of wanting . . . 5 years of saving . . . We finally adopted a 20yr old! And like a proud dad I have to tell everyone and show the original ultrasound scan from back in 1983. So go here to see it! http://205.133.7.130/images/DMC-Ultrasound.jpg Well OK, so it may not be totally real but thats what happens when a Mac geek has too much time on his hands and access to Adobe Photoshop ;-) Shannon Y VIN# 6506 . . . finally ! _ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:22:57 -0000 From: "Charlie g <charlie_az@xxxxxxxxxxx>" <charlie_az@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Need repair help in Atlanta I might be wrong but it sounds like the fuel filter?? I would probably check that out.. --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mfdpa@xxxx wrote: > I have a 1983 that I believe has a bad starter. I have 13 volts on the dash meter and when I turn the key I hear the fuel pump and the relay behind the passenger seat and I hear a loud click from the engine bay (the solenoid?) but the engine does not turn. Jumping does not help. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:14:26 EST From: AJL521@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Need repair help in Atlanta Michael, The starter does sound like the part that causing your problem, but double check for a bad connection in the wiring. You can also try lightly taping the starter with a hammer. If the starter cranks after taping it, then you have found your problem. I would recommend trying an import shop that works on Volvos or Renaults, they shoulden't have any problem replacing it for you. Its not a hard starter to replace. Hope this helps, Andrew 4194 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:17:19 -0000 From: "David Teitelbaum <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx>" <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Need repair help in Atlanta >From the symptoms you describe it could very well be the starter. This is not too difficult a job so you might want give it a try. The first thing you must do is get the car up in the air. For this you need a jack and 2 jackstands for the rear. You should do this on a flat, level floor. Once you get the car up use a test light or a meter and look for voltage at the small (white-red) wire on the starter when someone else tries to start the motor. If you have voltage and you hear the solenoid clicking then make sure you have battery voltage on the big wire at the starter. If you have the voltages and the starter isn't working then it has to come out. Refer to M:02:01-04 for the complete remove, replace, and troubleshooting procedure. It is not that difficult to remove. It is best not to try having it rebuilt as most shops won't have the parts needed to do a thourgh job. Either try a Volvo dealer or a Delorean vender for a new or rebuilt unit. If you don't get voltage on the small (white-red) wire it could be a bad starter inhibit relay. You didn't say if it was an automatic. Make sure it is in Park. You could have a bad neutral start switch or a wiring problem. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mfdpa@xxxx wrote: > I have a 1983 that I believe has a bad starter. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:34:47 EST From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx Subject: additional plate (answer) The DML had a thread on a second plate located next to the VIN plate that no one could figure out why or where it came from on some cars. I asked George Crane and here is his response. I hope this answers your questions) In a message dated 2/17/03 1:20:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, Geordie.Crane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Ken > any hard questions? > The plate you are talking about is one that was required by some states > and Saudi Arabia in the late 70s early 80s that basically said "the car and > all of its electrical components were certified not to interfere with VHF > radio systems" > > George > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:18:18 EST From: kkoncelik@xxxxxxx Subject: Update Pigoen Forge Just thought I would pass along that it looks as if we will be in a convention center all three days. We just got the OK to hold the Friday night event in the Grand Hotel Convention Center. (Still working on costs) So this means that we will have the Smoky Shadows Convention Center Thursday evening, and the Grand Convention Center on Friday evening and all day Saturday. We had the food here for New Years and it was great so we are looking forward to that too. For those of you at Memphis and in particular at the Hollywood Casino on Friday night. This Convention Center is about 4 to 5 times the size of the Hollywood. Space will not be an issue plus we have a full stage. For those of you into gospel music, the Sunday Gospel show is recorded here every Sunday so if you tune in you can see how big it is. I have been getting a lot of e-mails from new owners/members wanting information and planning on going and its looking again like we could be half new people and half existing. If it is it will be the third show in a row with that kind of split indicating there is still room to grow. There are plenty of rooms that is not an issue this year. (At least at this point) We have 200 rooms reserved with about 100 remaining in all price ranges. We are working on our special guests and The Dragon Run on Friday. I do want to begin to push The Comedy Barn. I will post three times that you could break away from the car show to see this Comedy Barn Show. Of all the shows we went to in Pigeon Fore we really enjoyed this one and its a must see. It will not be part of the DeLorean Car Show sponsored event but we will give you information and free time to see it. You will be sorry if you miss it. We also decided on doing a BBQ on Thursday and we are working on the details. For those of you non meat eating guests we will as usual have at least one item on the buffet that is non meat each night. Last time it was Egg plant parmesan, meatless spaghetti plus the Friday Dinner. Its still over a year away but I remember Memphis, it seemed so far off then wham it was here. Hope you all made out OK from the snow. See ya soon And wait till you see Curtis Car. We are also getting more cars lined up for the show that are in the Rare and unusual categories and I do not mean necessarily modified Deloreans. Ken DeLorean Car Show Inc. DeLorean Car Show Magazine Deloreancarshow.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:44:39 -0600 From: Bob Brandys <BobB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Need repair help in Atlanta Does anybody know what happened to DMC Joe? He was a great guy. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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