To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 6 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: trailing arm bolt removal From: tobyp@xxxxxxxxxxxx 2. Re: Re: New Magazine From: RJRavalli@xxxxxxx 3. RE: Re: whiny engine From: "Palatinus, Joe" <jopalatinus@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 4. Re: Re: temp gauge not responding From: "K Creason" <dmc4687@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 5. What other cars used the PRV-V6 From: jugeauj@xxxxxxxx 6. Re: Re: DeLorean mentioned in Magazine From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount@xxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 22:00:04 -0000 From: tobyp@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: trailing arm bolt removal Joe - During the tech sessions that I mentioned in my previous post, we were at a members' home with a mechanics pit in the garage. The cars were sitting over the pit for the removal. A jack was placed at the side being worked on, using the underbody jacking point, and the car is lifted until the tire just left the floor. This allowed the wheel and trailing arm to be manipulated slightly to find the position where the bolt becomes unloaded. It can then be tapped or pulled out. At most, you will see a slight shifting of the arm, but there should be no sudden movements to be concerned about. Keep track of washers, shims, etc. The bolts can be inspected or replaced with new bolts, placing the washers back into their original positions as the joint is reassembled. As noted in other posts, there is some amount of wear on the washers, due to movement of components in the joint (a function of the "crappy bolt" bending under load). I recommend turning the washers to provide a fresh surface against the sleeves in the arm and bushing. We found that the bolt will slip back in easier if the car is lowered slowly until a small amount of weight is on the wheel. This seems to get the holes in both the arm and the rubber bushing to line up better. You snug the nut onto the bolt, lower the car to put full weight on the wheel, and then perform the final torque. As I indicated earlier, I will be posting again with details of what I have done for myself and a handful of PNDC cars. I was delayed last night by urgent maintenance requirements on my wife's Explorer. --- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Joe Thome" <joethome@xxxx> wrote: > Hello Fellow List Members, > > Great discussion on trailing arm bolts. Is there any precaution which should be followed in the removal of these bolts for inspection or replacement? Do you simply get under the car and screw these bolts out, or do you have to secure the trailing arms or other parts so that they don't suddenly spring out position and do damage to person or car? > > Many thanks. > > Joe Thome > > VIN 6467 as of 2/12/01 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 17:40:29 EST From: RJRavalli@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Re: New Magazine Folks, from someone who has some publishing experience, you need to lighten up on the new DMC Houston magazine here. Now I haven't seen it myself, so maybe I shouldn't even be posting this, but what magazine DOESN'T have tons of ads in them? I think this is especially excusable if, as the original posted noted, the magazine makes it clear that it is a publication of DMC Houston. Also, isn't the list a far better place to ask and receive answers on tech related questions??? Every magazine needs variety (including ads, as noted above), so I'm sure they will continue to include some technical stuff, but wouldn't JUST technical stuff be as boring as a magazine with JUST ads? Wouldn't you also like to see articles on DeLorean history, media updates (i.e. "Where is the car now?"), readers personal stories, etc. So maybe you guys need to lighten up a bit. If all you want is technical information on ANY topic, then don't buy a *magazine*, which by usual definition are popular publications being introduced for wider audiences. Richard Modesto, CA ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:04:47 -0500 From: "Palatinus, Joe" <jopalatinus@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: Re: whiny engine >when depressing the clutch is a throwout bearing, noise when not >depressing the clutch is transmission. (Generally). >David Teitelbaum >vin 10757 I do not have a slight grinding whine, but for the past almost 2 years I hear a slight creak or perhaps best described as flexing metal sound, it is a sound simmilar to a squeaky hinge.. Anywany i hear this noise everytime I depress the clutch, it is bearly adiable witht eh engine on, but when the engine is off it is very obvious. I had not clutch problems until a year ago when my slave and master cylinders went out, I changed those, and no problem until recently my car has not wanted to DOWN shift into second gear. I can go first second third, but third second, or actually trying to get into second going at any apreciable speed is difficult, it will not grind, but I really have to force it in there. All other gears shift a smmoth as silk, and I do still hear that squeky noise when I engage the clutch, it has not gotten worse, should I be concerned about the noise? I have a feeling the second gear problem is relatively benign and I will not worry bout that till I need a new cluch, but the noise that I have been hearing, Is that my throwout bearing wearing its life away? just curious thanks Joe palatinus VIN 17167 6808 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 18:09:33 -0600 From: "K Creason" <dmc4687@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re: temp gauge not responding I'll keep that in mind. I gave the binnacle the Fonz trick last night and it work! Also, my antenna suddenly went up and the radio turned on and started playing Happy Days..... I don't know where I've been that I haven't heard of (or had) a stuck needle before... but now I know. Thanks for the help, all. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lucas" <lucas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:03 AM Subject: [DML] Re: temp gauge not responding > Be careful here. > > I once used this technique to unstick the needle on my fuel gauge. It > worked, but it also > got me the first little crack in my previously pristine binnacle. > > --pete lucas > vin #06703 > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:32:25 -0500 From: jugeauj@xxxxxxxx Subject: What other cars used the PRV-V6 Would anyone know if there's a listing somewhere of what other cars used the PRV-V6? Where all PRV-V6 created equal? I know a little about they being used in the Volvo 760 and some 780s albeit in a lower performance version than in the DMC-12. Where there any others? Just curious. I get a lot of questions and concerns voiced over the misconception that DeLorean developed his own engine making parts and service knowledge scarce. Louis ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:26:39 -0500 From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re: DeLorean mentioned in Magazine Whatever. What's with the giugiaro bashing? The Delorean HAS ENGINEERING PROBLEMS. The door included. The guides, the lineup with the other panels, the inherently sagging shocks, and the weak lower strut mount are a few examples. Isn't giugiaro a DESIGNER? How could he be 'responsible' for the engineering of the excel, or daewoo or whatever else? 1537 On Tue, 06 Nov 2001 02:13:00 -0000 DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx writes: > --- In dmcnews@xxxx, "ian" <ian@xxxx> wrote: > <SNIP> > > I quote the last sentences ... > > > > " He insisted on the gullwing doors which caused major engineering > > problems > > and the car was pretty horrible. It was terrible to drive. Making > cars > > requires huge reserves of capital which he simply didn't have. I > really > > wanted it to be a success." > <SNIP> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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