dmcnews-digest Monday, June 1 1998 Volume 03 : Number 370
In this issue:
Re: DML: Re: other dmc products
DML: no power
Re: DML: A/C water Leak
DML: DeLorean Insruance cost
DML: Temperature Gauge doesn't work.
DML: Road Trip Repair Kit
DML: Joe-DMC Services
DML: Cincinnati Car Show Update
Re: DML: tires
Re: DML: Re: other dmc products
DML: Finding temp sensor or ANY other part.
DML: How much is Insruance?
Re: DML: Road Trip Repair Kit
Re: DML: Bloomberg Article
DML: Re: other dmc products
Re: DML: Road Trip Repair Kit
DML: re: Road Trip Repair Kit
DML: Lowering Cars
DML: The Engine
DML: Re: Road Trip Repair Kit
DML: Re:Start Inhibit Relay Circuit Failure
DML: RE: no power
DML: Cinn Show
DML: Delorean.org
DML: Re: tires
DML: RE: Road Trip Repair Kit
DML: Re: Tires
DML: Re: Temperature Gauge doesn't work.
DML: Re: tires
Re: DML: Re: other dmc products
Re: DML: Wanted: Blueprints, plans, specifications, etc.
DML: Water Pump Leak or Just Hoses?
DML: Fwd: Delorean Sub Frame
DML: Rear Shocks
Re: DML: How much is Insruance?
Re: DML: Latest DeCO Newsletter
DML: A DELOREAN POWER WHEELS FOR CHILDREN
DML: Louisianna
DML: Starting problem diagnosed as ballast resistor wire failure
DML: axles
DML: Re: Water Pump Leak or Just Hoses?
Re: DML: How much is Insruance?
Re: DML: A DELOREAN POWER WHEELS FOR CHILDREN
DML: DMC Stories?
Re: DML: Re: other dmc products
DML: RE: axles
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:05:42 -0500
From: steve r <stephenr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: other dmc products
Were there any prototypes of the DMC-80. I would like to see a DeLorean
Bus.
Was it supposed to be stainless steal?
Joe wrote:
(SNIP)
> In mid 81 DMC was involved in the development of a bus, that's right, the
> "DMC-80", it was hailed as an Americanized German bus. Shortly after that
> John was involved in the ski slope grooming business i.e.: DeLorean
> sno-cats. So, you see, DMC baggage tugs may not be that unusual.
> If you have any more information on the tugs let me know.
> Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 11:04:16 -0700
From: Moore <psmdiver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: no power
I'm having a little trouble with my "D" when it is cold ( just after
starting). The engine will not produce enough power to pull the car out
of the wet paper bag. After the engine warms up a little, it will run
fine.
Another symptom, during the engine warm-up, the engine doesn't
oscillate. The "air pump" thing what ever it is and where ever it is
at.
Any Suggestions??
Bill Moore vin:6691
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Date: Thu, 28 May 98 15:17:03 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: A/C water Leak
> Both the passenger and driver side carpets are thoroughly wet. My
> untested
> theory is that the water is leaking somewhere and running down the
> fiberglass floor, because the padding seems to be even wetter than the
> carpet. I know that other people get a wet floor after running the A/C
> for
> a while, but I there is a LOT of water in my floor and it just doesn't
> seem
> normal.
I would guess that sense you have water on both sides of the car,
you probably have a blockage in the drain tube or the connection
hose between the air box and the hose under the car has came loose.
ALSO, something that is rare, but I found the problem on a friends car,
is that it is possible for the air intake drain to get blocked and cause
rain water to fill up the air intake passage. ???
- -Brandon
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:49:32 -0400
From: Sean Jones <shain@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Insruance cost
Hello,
Can someone tell me the cost of insurance for owning a DeLorean. Just
trying
to get all of the info. Thanks again, i like talking to people who know
a
good car.
Sean
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:44:29 -0400
From: Sean Mullally <mullally@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Temperature Gauge doesn't work.
I was driving yesterday and noticed my temperature gauge has stopped
working. It is
now pointing straight down, way past the lowest mark I had jumped the car
earlier in
the day due to a dead battery, so the last thing I needed was another
problem.
Has anyone experienced a problem like this? How can I determine if the
temp. sending
unit is the problem? How easy in that to replace? I'm not even sure where
it is on
the engine. But, I know it is separate from the thermostat switch in the
coolant
pipe.
I hope to get this fixed before teh Cincinatti event. Although I've had no
overheating problems, I don't like the idea of driving six hours with no
gauge.
Thanks.
Sean Mullally
#3868
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Date: Thu, 28 May 98 20:21:01 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Road Trip Repair Kit
Got the emailgram from DeLorean Motor Company (Houston) and there was a
brief mention of things to carry in a roadtrip repair kit...as someone
who will be driving 4,000+ miles on this little jaunt, what does everyone
else take along?
Here's my list...
fuses
belts
hose repair kit
wire, spade connectors and crimping tool
service manual
parts manual
metric socket and wrench set
flat repair can
anything else?
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:47:54 -0500
From: "C. Longwisch" <CL1954@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Joe-DMC Services
A note of public thanks for your help on the wiring of the door locks.
You
definitely are an asset to the forum. If you are going to be in Cinci I
owe
you a drink! The auto door lock module on the alarm system works great.
$109.00 at Sears ( Audiovox brand) and I have an alarm and keyless entry.
Thanks again
Cecil Longwisch
DMC1982
VIN# 10663
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 07:03:38 EDT
From: KKoncelik@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Cincinnati Car Show Update
Still getting a few last minute requests from all over
Iowa, New, Jersey, Ohio, Minnesota, Illinois and /california.
This is going to be a real DeLorean lovers show I now have 71 DeLoreans
registered Again my thanks to all of you
Ken
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 07:43:42 EDT
From: DMCIMF@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: tires
Goodyear RH tires come in org. Delorean sizes & have worked out very
well for
me.
Bill Glover
DMCIMF
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 13:04:19 +0100
From: "Martin Gutkowski (UK)" <msg101@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: other dmc products
It is on the Back-From-the-Future Video.
And: No, it seems to be painted red.
Martin
steve r wrote:
> Were there any prototypes of the DMC-80. I would like to see a DeLorean
> Bus. Was it supposed to be stainless steal?
>
> Joe wrote:
>
> (SNIP)
>
> > In mid 81 DMC was involved in the development of a bus, that's right, the
> > "DMC-80", it was hailed as an Americanized German bus. Shortly after that
> > John was involved in the ski slope grooming business i.e.: DeLorean
> > sno-cats. So, you see, DMC baggage tugs may not be that unusual.
> > If you have any more information on the tugs let me know.
> > Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:54:49 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Finding temp sensor or ANY other part.
Sean Mullally said:
> I was driving yesterday and noticed my temperature gauge has
> stopped working. [snip]
> Has anyone experienced a problem like this? How can I determine
> if the temp. sending unit is the problem? How easy in that to replace?
> I'm not even sure where it is on the engine. But, I know it is separate
> from the thermostat switch in the coolant pipe.
Bummer about your temperature gauge, Sean. With any luck the problem
is just a loose wire. Off hand I don't know where that sensor is, but
I'll
tell you a quick way to find it or any other part on any stock DeLorean.
Surf over to the DMC Houston Online Store:
http://www.usadmc.com
Enter the Online Parts Store and search for words like temp or thermo or
sensor. As your search finds part names that sound right, you can click
on the PDF hypertext and call up a picture of the part showing
approximately where it fits in the car. You should be able to find any
part in the car within a few minutes. All this is available for free.
If it
turns out you need a part you can order it from that screen just by
clicking your mouse.
Good luck!
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:52:43 EDT
From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: How much is Insruance?
I have allways wanted a Delorean ever since the movie Back To The Future
came
out and the one thing thats stoped me frome getting it is I dont know how
much
the insruance is so if anyone can E-mail it to me at ether
MORE4U2C@xxxxxxxxx
or at GRBUS243@xxxxxxxx I would appreciate it allot.
Thanks,
Jason Tyrone
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:34:59 -0700
From: cliff wallace <wlsms@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Road Trip Repair Kit
James Espey wrote:
>
> Got the emailgram from DeLorean Motor Company (Houston) and there was a
> brief mention of things to carry in a roadtrip repair kit...as someone
> who will be driving 4,000+ miles on this little jaunt, what does everyone
> else take along?
>
> Here's my list...
>
> fuses
> belts
> hose repair kit
> wire, spade connectors and crimping tool
> service manual
> parts manual
> metric socket and wrench set
> flat repair can
>
> anything else?
>
> James Espey
> Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
A flashlight. It's very dark where the relays and fuse box are.
Cliff 3773
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:00:51 -0700
From: "Marvin S. Sterling" <marv930@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Bloomberg Article
Joe wrote:
>
> Matt,
> The answers to most of your questions about the design of the DeLorean
> suspension system can be found, if you can get your hands on a copy, in
> "DeLorean Stainless Steel Illusion" pages 71 through 77.
> Joe/DeLorean Services
>
> ----------
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
If memory serves - the smaller rims were put on front because the front
lifted at high speed with larger rims - the aerodynamics of lowering the
front by using smaller rims is that at high speed the air pushes the
front down rather than air getting under it and lifting - remember the
front to rear weight ratio is 35 - 65
Marv Sterling
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:13:41 -0700
From: "Ryan Bennett" <rpbennet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: other dmc products
>Were there any prototypes of the DMC-80. I would like to see a DeLorean
>Bus.
>Was it supposed to be stainless steal?
>
Stainless Steal...good line for a classifieds ad.
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 07:03:04 -0600 (MDT)
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Road Trip Repair Kit
A four leaf clover and a rabbit's foot?
Dick Ryan
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 09:11:28 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: re: Road Trip Repair Kit
James said:
> . . . as someone who will be driving 4,000+ miles on this little jaunt,
> what does everyone else take along?
I carry information. At Nashville two years ago Rob Grady gave out a
*very* nice pamphlet describing some emergency repairs that can get
you out of a jam. I also carry my copy of the DeLorean Owners
Directory in case I need to seek help far from home.
Other items:
electronic multimeter
assorted screwdrivers
utility knife
duct tape
First Aid kit
fire extinguisher
cellular phone
1 gallon of antifreeze for aluminum engines
You cannot fit all this stuff, plus your luggage, in a DeLorean trunk. To
be safe on a long trip you really need a luggage rack.
Even on a short trip you should have a luggage rack collapsed in your
trunk. You never know when you'll need it to carry a flat tire.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 07:40:57 PDT
From: "William H. Swilley" <billswilley@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Lowering Cars
Hi Guys,
I'm Bill Swilley, the poor slob that lives and works in Saudi who only
gets to visit his car once or twice a year. I've just completed a 4,500
miles run in it from Houston to the Grand Canyon and back, with various
stops and detours along the way. One fun diversion was the run from
Phoenix up to Tortilla Flats with James Espey leading the way that he
described on these pages a few days ago. I plan to compose a detailed
account of my experiences with the car and the trip for those that might
be interested and invite such persons to drop me a quick line, and I
will send that as soon as I have it.
A couple of comments seem appropriate at this time, however,
particularly in response to the recent interest expressed in lowering
our cars. One of the major modifications that were made to my car prior
to the trip was the replacement of the springs with the "Euro" setup
from DMC in Houston. Stephen tells me that these are nothing more than
the original springs designed for the car and not used due to the then
new bumper height requirements. Apparently, a lot more engineering went
into these springs than the ones used for getting the cars into
production.
After over 5,000 miles of concentrated experience, I can honestly state
that this is the ONLY method that should be considered for lowering our
cars. The resultant height looks right, not "lowered", providing about
an inch of space above the tires to the wheel well, front and rear. The
ride may be very slightly firmer than original, but feels to me to be
more consistent front to rear. In the past, I have felt as if the front
was considerably softer than the rear, with the rear being overly harsh.
On the road and at speed, it feels rock solid and plenty smooth for long
distance travel. In town, there is no objectionable chopiness that is
so common to lowered cars, and the ramp angle is not so compromised as
to be a problem. My old Porsche 944 scraped the front dam a whole lot
more often than my D does now. In my limited attempts at high speed
cornering, I feel that the stability and control of the car has been
significantly improved. So, for those of you who feel cars should be
driven and not just show pieces, I urge you to consider it.
The other major improvement this trip was the refinishing of the wheels.
Mine is a 150,000+ mile former daily driver, and had accumulated a lot
of dings and chips in the wheels. We had the wheels buffed down to the
metal putting a soft sheen to them which is now protected with a clear
coat, and the wheels were balance with stick on weights on the interior
of the rims. The resulting appearance is not so far from stock as to be
offensive and, in fact, might not even be noticed if not sitting side by
side an original. Again, they just look right, probably the way they
should have come from the factory.
Enough for now. It was a great trip and I am already looking forward to
my next reunion with my babe.
Bill Swilley
Original Owner of #4730
billswilley@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:05:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: jameel a ahed <ahed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: The Engine
Dear DML,
I have been thinking about a new project. Please email me direct
if you guys have any input. After doing all that engine work I am sort of
dissatisfied. My father has a brand new Eclipse GSX (all wheel drive
turbo) and that thing is so fast. It pins you to the seat. (pulls a lot
of G's!) anyway I sit in my car... a ~2.9 liter V6 and nothing... well
yeah it has some power and that I think is only because it is a five
speed. Other than that ... I am unhappy with its performance. I think
about the turbo kit offered for our cars and just think about how our poor
engines just can't handle it.. I know some out there that really like
them but I think about the reduced boost and how you just can't beat on
our weak little engines... After all our timing chains are like bycicle
chains. Ultimately what would make me and many others happy would be the
Legends engine... All that thing was, was our engine (strengthened!) with
twin intercoolers and twin turbos!
Now what I want to do is, buy an engine from Ohio, Tear it down
get a new stronger crankshaft made (if necessary.. i am not sure about the
crank) get new cams made, maybe a little tricked but just stronger..
(crane cams) I definitely want new pistons and connecting rods made
stronger and also the sleaves.. but I need to do a bit more research on
the sleaves, to see if that is truley necessary. I also want to get more
spark by using a Jacobs Omni Magnum (I think we can get this for our cars
and use them without any modification.) I want to use two nice large
intercoolers, well as large as our little engine compartment can let us
and two massive turbos. Well as massive as the math will let me for our
engines. I think if I beef up the timing chains that engine should be in
good shape. My goal is to beat Legends test time, they supposedly ran the
legends engine at 6000 rpm (max horse) for 200 hours without any system
failures... I want to exceed that. I am sure there would be a market for
this engine if it was basically a stock DeLorean engine with these
"Legends" type modifications. I will see to it that the engine outputs
more power than the legends but safely. I still want to use little cats
and exhaust because I want it to pass emissions. What do you guys think?
drop me a line.
ahed@xxxxxxxx
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:08:41 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Road Trip Repair Kit
>Here's my list...
>
>fuses
>belts
>hose repair kit
>wire, spade connectors and crimping tool
>service manual
>parts manual
>metric socket and wrench set
>flat repair can
>
>anything else?
>
Fluids
DC current tester (light-on-a-probe)
Bible
Screwdrivers
DUCT TAPE!!
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 14:23:23 -0400
From: Aldo.Buono@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Re:Start Inhibit Relay Circuit Failure
Thanks Joe/DeLorean Services for your ideas.
The mystery remains -- why or how does the 12V feed to the blower
circuit breaker go dead??????
Only a handful of possibilities:
1. A break in the 12V feed -- where is the break likely to occur?
2. Are there any other overload protective devices on that circuit?
Fuses? Circuit breakers? None are identified on the schematic,
but we know the schematic is not accurate or complete.
3. A switch! The ignition switch is suppose to be the only switch
in
the circuit. When the blower circuit breaker is fed from
another
12V source, the ignition circuit works perfectly.
Ideas????????
Thanx,
Aldo Buono, President
De Lorean Midatlantic
VIN 1440
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 16:51:19 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: no power
Bill,
Is it a standard or auto???? If it's an auto, is it actually starting =
out in first gear or does it feel like it's in 2nd or 3rd??? When my =
auto trans computer governor was going out (the 1st time!) it would =
start off in 2nd or 3rd gear instead of first. I replaced the governor =
and it ran fine.
Thanks,
Duke
- -----Original Message-----
>From: Moore [SMTP:psmdiver@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 1:04 PM
>To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: DML: no power
>
>I'm having a little trouble with my "D" when it is cold ( just after
>starting). The engine will not produce enough power to pull the car out
>of the wet paper bag. After the engine warms up a little, it will run
>fine.
>
>Another symptom, during the engine warm-up, the engine doesn't
>oscillate. The "air pump" thing what ever it is and where ever it is
>at.
>
>Any Suggestions??
>
>Bill Moore vin:6691
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 19:39:00 EDT
From: WINGD2@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Cinn Show
For people heading thru St Louis on their way to the Cinn event; most of
the
major East - West highways thru St Louis are under construction at the
bridge
crossings at the Mississippi. I-270 is down to 3 lanes, one each way and
a
reversable ( west bound in the am and east bound in the pm). I-40 east
bound
downtown across the river is CLOSED until maybe July due to damage and
I-70
east bound is closed from 4 to 6 PM everyday because of the same damage (
a
truck hit one of the on ramp support piers to the bridge and caused major
damage) . All the traffic from these closings is being dumped onto I-55
and
I-44 east bound so it naturally has turned into a parking lot. If your
going
thru St Louis to get to Cinn, if you're comming from the south side of
town
your best bet is to take I-255 on the south side of town to get into
Illinois.
If your comming from Kansas City on I-70 on the north side of town, I'd
take
I-270 across. It will move, but just not real fast. Hope this helps.
Good Luck, Marty
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 00:31:08 -0500
From: "Brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Delorean.org
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Delorean.org is now up and fully operational...although still under =
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delorean.org...please stop by. Several members have already responded =
and accounts will be activated within the next few hours! Thanks so =
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While at delorean.org...please feel free to sign the guestbook and =
make any comments about the site. GOOD or BAD -- they all will help! =
Hope to hear from many of you soon! =20
Come visit http://www.delorean.org !!!
Brad Smith
webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxx
VIN#1007
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 16:19:13 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: tires
>
> Just out of curiosity.
> Can 235/70-15 or 245/70-15 sizes be use in the rear without any adverse
> conditions to be expected?
> What does it do to the height and will it clear the wheel well of the
> Delorean?
> Will it change the peformance's end?
>
> Anyone with any other leads or suggestions?
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks.
>
> Kayo Ong
> #05508
> Lic 9D NY
Don't go with 70 series tires. The DeLorean's final drive ratio is high
enough and the 70's series tires will raise it even higher. 245/50's work
as do 245/60's, although the latter will also raise the final drive ratio
a
bit. The 50 series actually lower it and improve performance a bit. Dunlop
offers tires in the DeLorean sizes but they are a pretty soft compund. A
friend that is running them goes through rear tires pretty fast.
Which Perelli series is available in the proper size. Are they performance
tires or just everyday steet tires?
Bruce Benson
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 09:53:09 -0500
From: thgraham@xxxxxxxx (Travis Graham)
Subject: DML: RE: Road Trip Repair Kit
I always keep a small tube suitable for bleeding the cooling system in my
trunk. Of course, this is probably just because I have had so many
problems
with my cooling system in the past :(
Travis Graham
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:51:10 -0700
From: Matt Peak <mpeak@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Tires
Kayo,
I would give the Pirelli's a shot. From what I've heard, P600's handle
awsomely (stay away from P4000's!). I am currently running Goodyear GT+4
in sizes 205/60TR-14 and 245/60TR-15. The drive great, are year round (so
they are great on wet roads), look good, and are a great value (a set of 4
for around $275). When the steering wheel is cranked ALL THE WAY, the
front tires rub a little bit on the sway bar, but it's not a big problem.
Besides that, I have experienced no troubles with the tires. As far as
using 70 series tires, I would stay away from them. 60 series on size 235
tires are rather high profile as they are. I would think that using a 70
series would make the handling rather sloppy as the increased sidewalls
would tend to flex more.
Matt
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:05:22 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Temperature Gauge doesn't work.
Sean,
I have no incidents of failures to either the temp gauge or sender, this
afternoon I will try to determine why your pointer is out of position. The
sender for the gauge is located in the inside front portion of the right
side valve cover (appox. 5" down next to the intake manifold) and has a
green/blue wire. I will post another message tomorrow to tell you how to
test the circuit.
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: Sean Mullally <mullally@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: Temperature Gauge doesn't work.
> Date: Thursday, May 28, 1998 8:44 PM
>
> I was driving yesterday and noticed my temperature gauge has stopped
> working. It is
> now pointing straight down, way past the lowest mark I had jumped the car
(SNIP)
>
> Has anyone experienced a problem like this? How can I determine if the
> temp. sending
> unit is the problem? How easy in that to replace? I'm not even sure where
(SNIP)
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:38:20 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: tires
Kayo,
Pirelli's we'll do the job, their not my choice, but I understand your
situation. 245's will work and should not cause a wheel well problem
except
in extreme cases ( big bumps or extreme cornering). It will, however,
change your speed readings. There will be no noticeable change in
performance, the change in height will be in perceptible. FYI the front
tires have no room for over size tires, you must stay with the 195's.
Bob/DeLorean Services
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:16:25 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: other dmc products
Steve,
Yes, the only photo that I have seen is in the, hard to find, DeLorean,
Stainless Steel Illusion, Page 159. Save yourself the trouble of trying to
locate a photo, it looks very much like a standard Gruman. From close
analysis it looks as if the photo's may have been doctored to add "DMC-80"
to an existing vehicle. I to would be interested if anyone has additional
information on this subject.
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: steve r <stephenr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: other dmc products
> Date: Thursday, May 28, 1998 10:05 AM
>
> Were there any prototypes of the DMC-80. I would like to see a DeLorean
> Bus.
> Was it supposed to be stainless steal?
>
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 16:25:19 EDT
From: NeilDyer@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Wanted: Blueprints, plans, specifications, etc.
I have a car load of what are marked up as "secondary masters" a3 to a0 i=
n=0Asize some film originals some copies some paper blue print copies th=
ere are=0Aseveral hundred if not thousand or so of them. i am looking to =
sell the lot as=0Aone lot and i'm after offers in exsess of =A35,000 (uk=
pounds) or $8,000 us if=0Ayou are serious please fax me on +44 1953 4578=
88 or 01953 457888 in uk
Neil Dyer
I also have a set of dmc vari injection moulds (beleaved to be ex. lotus=
=0Aengineering) for the grp sub frame for sale, the could also be used fo=
r normal=0Agrp hand lay for one off's I'm looking for offers in exsess of=
=A32,000 (uk=0Apounds) the would probably fit in a shipping container.=
=0A
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 18:32:21 EDT
From: GullWinged@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Water Pump Leak or Just Hoses?
Well, just under two weeks until I was taking my DeLorean to Ohio for the
convention and my car has started leaking coolant down the front of the
water pump, although I can't tell where the actual source is. I do know
that it is not the large side hoses, but I don't know about the hoses on
the back side of the pump. Last night I though I heard a quiet vibration
sound coming from the engine compartment when parking the car for the
night yesterday. I revved the engine a little a couple of times and the
sound went away so I forgot about it. This morning I noticed a trail of
water coming from under the engine and saw water dripping every couple of
seconds. The belts are fine and the noise didn't reappear when I started
it today.
Should I suspect just the back side hoses or the whole water pump? I'll
be calling Rob Grady on Monday to order the hoses, but am considering
just ordering his whole water pump kit for $3xx.
Thanks all once again!
Chase
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Date: Sat, 30 May 98 15:54:05 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fwd: Delorean Sub Frame
- ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------------
Date: 05/30 6:22 AM
Received: 05/30 3:51 PM
From: steve barber, eefinem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To Whom it may concern.
My name is Stever Barber. I run a autobody
repair shop. 2 years ago I aquired a Delorean
frame. It was for a restoration project for a
customer but they ran out of time and money.
I am trying to sell this frame to help recover
my loss. It has been chemically striped and
powder coated in black. Perfect shape and
has hardware to mount an automatic transmission.
I am asking $1800 for it. Please spread the word
around to your club. I am located in Lexington
Kentucky. Thanks very much
steve
eefinem@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 08:08:54 +0100
From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Rear Shocks
Hallo fello DMCers,
Re. ADVICE ON REPLACEMENT REAR SHOCKS?
Greetings from Hong Kong! I have just bought a gorgeous '81 manual DMC
in Los Angeles at Easter, an ambition I have had since I was a schoolboy
seeing the cars being produced in Dunmurry (I come from N.Ireland but
now work as an Architect/City Designer in S.E.Asia).
I will drive my new toy cross country in Sept./Oct. to Baltimore and
ship her back to N.Ireland to be stored on my farm. Before that trip I
wish to replace my rear shocks as the existing ones are 'on their way
out!' Is the norm to replace the existing shocks (Girling?) or is there
an upgrade available? Any info. would be gratefully received.
Cheers, IAN
- ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 19:29:24 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: DML: How much is Insruance?
dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> I have allways wanted a Delorean ever since the movie Back To The Future
> came
> out and the one thing thats stoped me frome getting it is I dont know how
> much
> the insruance is so if anyone can E-mail it to me at ether
> MORE4U2C@xxxxxxxxx
> or at GRBUS243@xxxxxxxx I would appreciate it allot.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason Tyrone
You know, to get an accurate quote for your particular driving record,
just call your agent and ask.
Scott Mueller
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Date: Sat, 30 May 98 18:25:50 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Latest DeCO Newsletter
On 5/29/98 3:11 AM, Knut Grimsrud shared these fine thoughts...
>I just uploaded the latest DeCO (DeLorean Club of Oregon) newsletter to the
>DMCNews web site for your perusal. It can be found under the "Club" tab of
>the DMC FAQ along with all the other back issues.
If you haven't check out the deLroean Club of Oregon newsletter archive,
you should! Knut has posted a lot of neat and useful infomration in them.
As Adobe Acrobat files, they are small and easy to read and print on
almost any computer.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 20:53:51 -0500
From: whitlock@xxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: A DELOREAN POWER WHEELS FOR CHILDREN
Does anyone know where I could find a
Back To The Future 3 DeLorean PowerWheels
in good condition ? Edward
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 20:44:10 -0500
From: steve r <stephenr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Louisianna
There is a small amount of bad news for the owners who are planning
on attending the Biloxi meeting. One of the LA owners has sold his car
and I currently do not know where the car is. If the new owner is
reading this could you please contact me. I would like to invite you to
attend a meeting I will be putting together for owners in this area.
If anyone else in LA would like to contact me just to let me know
they are in the area, feel free to do so. It is always exiting to know
that there are other owners and other curious people nearby.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 21:59:41 -0500
From: Steve Brodsky <impact.auto@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Starting problem diagnosed as ballast resistor wire failure
Well - ole #10688 is back on the road again. FYI - 82 model 50,000 miles
- - I'm original owner since Sept 1983 purchased from Consolidated.
What is real interesting is that the main problem I was having seems
similar to one that I have seen discussed on the net. The car would
start fine and idle when it was cold. Then after driving no more that
3-4 miles, the car would go dead - JUST LIKE IN THE MOVIE. (Some of you
can probabaly relate - it is quite embarrasing being in a Delorean on
the side of the road). Anyway, the first time two times it happened, the
car restarted after it cooled down. I suspected a fuel system problem as
it would run (barely) with full throttle and the starter engaged. (I
tried banging my head on the steering wheel but it only got the steering
wheel sweaty). The third and last time it quit, it would not restart at
all. After checking all the relays and fuel pump, I finally threw up my
hands and ante'd up $400.00 for a flat bed trip to DMC Houston. Stephen
got it running after replacing the fuel pump and accumulator (both of
which were original equipment). I suggested that he drive it home for a
couple of days just to make sure. Then it happend to him - twice it
conked out. Guess what they found?? A wire going to the right side of
the ballast resistor was so corroded that the connector was holding on
with just a couple of strands.
Steve Brodsky #10688
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Date: Sun, 31 May 98 00:04:42 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: axles
Anyone know if the axles are serviced or exchanged
with one of the delorean service centers OR any other
company. The parts manual shows the entire assembly
to be serviced as a unit But they are of the same style
lobro axle used on some porsche products ???
- -Brandon
bsmoody@xxxxxxx
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 09:37:58 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Water Pump Leak or Just Hoses?
Chase,
Your water leak is most likely coming from a loose hose clamp at one of
the
two short hoses that run from the left and right side of the pump behind
the thermostat. Those clamps can usually be tightened without any
disassembly. If the leak is from the pump rear hoses your in for a more
complex procedure. Also, check the weep hole at the pump shaft, it is
located at the bottom side of the pulley shaft, a small mirror will help
to
see this area. If you would like to determine where any of the leaks are
just drive your car to any service center and ask them to do a coolant
system pressure test, this will pinpoint any leaks. If you want you can
invest appox. $100 and buy your own pressure tester. To temporarily seal
any leaks a serving of "Bars Stop Leak" will safely stop the leak until
you
can have it corrected.
Bob/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: GullWinged@xxxxxxx
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: Water Pump Leak or Just Hoses?
> Date: Saturday, May 30, 1998 6:32 PM
>
> Well, just under two weeks until I was taking my DeLorean to Ohio for the
> convention and my car has started leaking coolant down the front of the
> water pump, although I can't tell where the actual source is. I do know
> that it is not the large side hoses, but I don't know about the hoses on
> the back side of the pump. Last night I though I heard a quiet vibration
> sound coming from the engine compartment when parking the car for the
> night yesterday. I revved the engine a little a couple of times and the
> sound went away so I forgot about it. This morning I noticed a trail of
> water coming from under the engine and saw water dripping every couple of
> seconds. The belts are fine and the noise didn't reappear when I started
> it today.
>
> Should I suspect just the back side hoses or the whole water pump? I'll
> be calling Rob Grady on Monday to order the hoses, but am considering
> just ordering his whole water pump kit for $3xx.
>
> Thanks all once again!
>
> Chase
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 15:52:01 EDT
From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: How much is Insruance?
Hi Jason,
This thread has been worked hard. The best thing for any potential 'D'
owner
to do is the easiest and most obvious, ask your Insurance Agent. That's
what
I did. I gave him a list of three cars that I was interested in buying
and
asked what the damage would be. Guess what...the 'D' was by far the
cheapest.
Based on that, it went to the top of the list and I've been a proud owner
since 1996. BTY, I live in Los Angles where car insurance ain't cheap.
Good
luck, Joe
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 00:15:21 EDT
From: GullwingD@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: A DELOREAN POWER WHEELS FOR CHILDREN
Hey , i remember those! My little cousin bought one when they came out,
but
it was from part 2. He still has it , him bieng a BTTF fan. But he
doesnt
want to sell it. I've asked many times to buy it from him. His is still
in
the actual box that it came in. Amazing enough, my aunt still has the
reciet
in which she got from Toys R' Us. How much is that worth anyway?
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:42:07 EDT
From: Gullwing99@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: DMC Stories?
Hello all,,,I want to make a suggestion to the list,,,I know that this
list
was created to provide info for our beloved cars in a mechanical way,some
have
done this a little but I think it would be nice to hear from the members
how
they got started being brainwashed with the stainless devil we all love
and
enjoy, I'd like to suggest we tell our stories, when we first
heard,saw,and
purchased these DMC-12's we so charish..Just a thought,,,I won't go into
my
story till I hear from the rest of you,,( just a thought),,,,,,,take care
all
J.B.Vincent
vin: 16709
lic: DMC-12 p.s. ( It would be also interesting to tell what other
people
say and do when they see our cars ! ) I have some interesting comments
from
car shows that you wouldn't believe,,,LOL !
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:26:54 -0500
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: other dmc products
> ----------
> > From: steve r <stephenr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: DML: Re: other dmc products
> > Date: Thursday, May 28, 1998 10:05 AM
> >
> > Were there any prototypes of the DMC-80. I would like to see a DeLorean
> > Bus.
> > Was it supposed to be stainless steal?
> >
There were brochures printed for the DMC bus.I have if some one wants to
post it on their web sight I could scan it and send it along as a file.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 21:45:20 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: axles
Brandon,
DeLorean Motor Center in Calif exchanges them. Their number is:
714-554-6794.
Hope this helps,
Duke
- -----Original Message-----
From: Brandon S. Moody [SMTP:bsmoody@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 1998 2:05 AM
To: DMC List
Subject: DML: axles
Anyone know if the axles are serviced or exchanged
with one of the delorean service centers OR any other
company. The parts manual shows the entire assembly
to be serviced as a unit But they are of the same style
lobro axle used on some porsche products ???
- -Brandon
bsmoody@xxxxxxx
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