To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 10 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Re: High Hood From: Senatorpack@xxxxxx 2. Re: Accumalator From: "Adam Price" <acprice1@xxxxxxxxxxx> 3. Re: Accumalator From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 4. Re: Accumalator From: "Tom Niemczewski" <tomciodmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 5. Re: Accumalator From: dherv10@xxxxxxx 6. Bargain DMC Alert From: "daveswingle2" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 7. torsion bar performance? From: "K Creason" <dmc4687@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 8. Delorean For Sale in Ohio From: "mrwillis5050" <glovermr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 9. Octane Rating (was Accumalator) From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker@xxxxxxxxx> 10. Re: Accumalator From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 01:08:11 EST From: Senatorpack@xxxxxx Subject: Re: Re: High Hood In a message dated 12/12/2001 11:06:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: << Actually the hood is quite adjustable. There are rubber stops at each upper corner that can be screwed up and down into the body, and I believe that the latch is also slightly adjustable. Did you have the fenders off the car? You may have reinstalled them missing the usual pile of shims between the fiberglass and the fenders. I've seen cars with as much as 1 cm of spacers/washers in between the fender and the fiberglass at the top edge. The production tolerances on the fiberglass underbody were far from perfect. >> Although the above information is correct, based on my experience, if the fascia, hood, fenders and related hardware were taken off, the most common way to adjust a "high hood" is to adjust the two hood hinges at the front of the bonnet. The adjustment is very straightforward, although the high beams & low beam lights must be removed to gain proper access in order to raise the hinges to return the hood to proper height. Upon correcting the "gaps" on my former 1981, removal of the aforementioned hardware was necessary, and an involved process of correct installation was necessary. Upon completion the hood was slightly higher at the rear. Minimal adjustment was necessary to the hinges, and after adjustment, the hood was returned to an aesthetically pleasing appearance. Historically speaking, The cars came out of the molds on a continuous 24 hour basis at Dunmurry. There were several molds utilized during production, and on occasion they would need some "tweaking" in order to service and maintain them as the molds encounter considerable pressure and wear during the VARI process. Mold were removed from production and serviced on a routine basis. The fiberglass bodies can differ as much as 1/4 inch in some areas of the car. This information was provided to me from former DMC chief engineer Michael Loasby. In real world manufacturing, 1/4 inch difference is a considerable amount of movement, as body panel alignment and door openings can be greatly effected. This could further explain the "gaps" found between the fenders and door on some mid 1981 cars. Seasons Greetings Mike Pack ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:47:19 -0800 From: "Adam Price" <acprice1@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Accumalator My car also began bucking this morning for the first time. Fuel is completely full and voltage levels normal. I put premium gas in it for the first time since I;ve owned it. I know these engines are rated for 91 octane, but premium is 92. Could this adversely affect the engine performance? Where is the inertia switch? Adam >From: dherv10@xxxxxxx >Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: [DML] Accumalator >Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:19:23 EST > >Nick, The accumulator doesn't have anything to do the with the bucking, it >just holds pressure on the system after the car is turned off. >#1. My first question is: How old is the fuel pump >#2. How much gas was in the tank >#3. Does the bucking start when the voltage goes down to 8 volts. >Answers to the question: >#1. If the pump is old and as the level of gas goes down the pump will not >self prime it's self. The roller bearings that actually do the pumping will >wear and the space in the pump will widen and this could be one problem. >Some >cars have a primer pump totally immersed in the tank. They must have had >some >forsite into this problem. >#2. The level of gas coupled with the old pump will have a harder time in >keeping gas to flow. Thus a bucking if it misses a beat. >#3. If the voltage drops that low, then the relay in the RPM relay will >open >and shut off the pump for an instant. Thus the bucking. >#4. Check the connections to the Inertia switch. If they are not tight, >they >will heat up and seperate for an instant and you will have the bucking. >John Hervey >http://www.specialtauto.com/ > > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx > >To search the archives or view files, log in at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 00:45:57 -0000 From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Accumalator The inertia switch is located just to the left of the clutch pedal, and in that area for automatics as well. It's a little black box with a button on top. This switch allows power to the fuel pump (among other things), so if the connection is intermittent, the power to the pump will be also. The theory behind the switch is that power will be shut off to the pump in the event of a collision or roll-over to reduce chance for a fire. The switches are known to be a problem item. Putting good fuel in the car should not cause poor performance. This probably has nothing to do with your problem, but I had a "bucking" problem some time ago, and I traced it down to a spark plug wire coming loose at the distributor. All I had to do was "plug and play". Toby Peterson VIN 2248 Winged1 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Adam Price" <acprice1@xxxx> wrote: > My car also began bucking this morning for the first time. Fuel is > completely full and voltage levels normal. I put premium gas in it for the first time since I;ve owned it. I know these engines are rated for 91 octane, but premium is 92. Could this adversely affect the engine performance? > > Where is the inertia switch? > > Adam ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 01:59:37 +0100 From: "Tom Niemczewski" <tomciodmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Accumalator Adam and anyone else, You are wrong on the octane subject. Remember that the car was made in Europe and the specs for the engine are based on European standards. The are two different methods for the octane rating. That 91 refers to the "research method" which is used in Europe and it equals to about 86 using the "R+M/2 method" used in US. If you go to ANY gas station in US there is a yellow sticker on the pump that has the octane rating and method for that rating. In US it is R+M/2 method. So, for all you guys in US - the DeLorean engine is rated for 86 octane gas and it really doesn't do much good to use the more expensive premium (well, maybe for the owner of the gas station it does). It's just more expensive. On the other hand, if your car seems to run bad on the 87 octane gas it means that it might need a tune-up because there is something wrong going on. I always use 87 gas in my D and it always starts at the touch of the key and runs beautifully. Take care everyone! Tom Niemczewski tomciodmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - tomciodmc'AT'poczta.onet.pl VIN 6298 (FOR SALE) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Price" <acprice1@xxxxxxxxxxx> <SNIP> > I put premium gas in it for the > first time since I;ve owned it. I know these engines are rated for 91 > octane, but premium is 92. Could this adversely affect the engine > performance? > > Adam -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 21:51:53 EST From: dherv10@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Accumalator Adam, Octane rating won't effect the bucking just make it run better. The voltage to the fuel pump or the ground is most likely the problem. Be sure to check the wring at the interia switch. What about # 7 fuse. The other place would be a intermittingly defective RPM relay which I can fix. Fuel pump could be acting up. John hervey http://www.specialtauto.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 01:56:30 -0000 From: "daveswingle2" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Bargain DMC Alert Now for the other end of the spectrum. Just posted up one for $7500 - details at http://www.dmcnews.com/buynsell.html As usual no affilation, could be a parts car....... Dave Swingle ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:15:48 -0600 From: "K Creason" <dmc4687@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: torsion bar performance? Do our torsion bars work better warm vs. cold? I know the struts do... but my doors will latch with my bad struts now that it has cooled down to 40ish. --------- I read this somewhere: "most experts agree that the end of the world will come by accident, most likely. That's where we come in; we're Computer Experts, we make accidents." ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 07:45:22 -0000 From: "mrwillis5050" <glovermr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Delorean For Sale in Ohio Hello everyone, I hoped this day would not come so soon, but I must part with my Delorean. A combination of factors all had their hands in this, but a new job with a nasty commute is the final nail in the coffin. I have loved this car, loved driving this car, and loved making new friends through this car. But now I have to find it a new home. I have set up a website to showcase my car, and here is the address: http://www.geocities.com/mrwillis5050/ It is an 81, 5-speed, grey interior, 43,000 miles and in great shape. I am asking $14,000 for the car, looking for a reasonably prompt sale within the Delorean community. The car is located in Bay Village, Ohio. Please contact me with any questions, or pass the info along to anyone who may be looking. I also wanted to take a moment to thank everyone who has personally helped me along the journey that is Delorean ownership (you know who you are), as well as the DML as a whole, who makes it possible for somebody like me to own one of these great cars. I will continue to lurk here as I always have, and will be looking to jump back in as soon as I get settled. Happy Holidays! Max Glover #5284 glovermr(AT)email.uc.edu ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 06:43:57 -0800 (PST) From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Octane Rating (was Accumalator) --- Tom Niemczewski <tomciodmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So, for all you guys in US - the DeLorean engine is > rated for 86 octane gas > and it really doesn't do much good to use the more > expensive premium (well, > maybe for the owner of the gas station it does). > It's just more expensive. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - UNLESS, of course, you have a turbo(s) or have raised the compression ratio (Houston Engine?). Then the higher octane rating means less/no pinging and that means much longer engine life.' Dick Ryan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:00:41 +0000 From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Accumalator Over here in the UK, standard unleaded is 95 octane and super unleaded is 98 octane. I've only put standard in my DeLorean so far, and HAVE had bucking problems, but traced it to a blocked fuel pickup filter. I have now butchered the "question-mark" shaped hose and inserted an in-line pickup filter, which as of last night when I drove 120 miles, works beautifully. (The reason I put in an in-line filter was because of how cheap and easy it is to get this particular filter (£6), compared to the inferior standard pickup filter.) To go back to the original point, 95 octane petrol works fine. I haven't tried super yet. The inertia switch SHOULD be located next to the bonnet release handle. I say SHOULD because mine's conspicuously absent... Martin #1458 Adam Price wrote: > My car also began bucking this morning for the first time. Fuel is > completely full and voltage levels normal. I put premium gas in it for the > first time since I;ve owned it. I know these engines are rated for 91 > octane, but premium is 92. Could this adversely affect the engine > performance? > > Where is the inertia switch? > > Adam ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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