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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. New eBay item
From: "Matt Clark" <diashi_c@xxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: SEDOC (Broken Red DeLorean)
From: dherv10@xxxxxxx
3. Re: vin plate
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
4. Re: badge
From: "B Benson" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Rear Rotor measurement help ...anyone?
From: "Mr Copies" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: Re: PJ Grady suspension vs. USA DMC suspension
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
7. Long Island Event
From: Dmc3360@xxxxxxx
8. Front Rotors For Sale
From: RFLRKV@xxxxxx
9. Re: Spare tire Question/Idea.
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
10. Giorgetto Giugiaro decal
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra@xxxxxxx>
11. Cadillac alternator
From: tgoodwin@xxxxxxxxxxxx
12. Re: Your Insurance is WHAT?!?!
From: Louie Golden <louie@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:20:07 -0000
From: "Matt Clark" <diashi_c@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: New eBay item
Hi group.
Just letting you know that I'm selling my DeLo front fascia and
assorted gubbins (lights, et al) on eBay (sorry for the plug). If
anyone wants a cool DeLorean display, can't ask for better than
that. I've also got diagrams on how to convert the peice to a BTTF
DeLo, should anyone want them.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=163876
3308
Also, does anyone have any pictures of the said Ital badge for the
car? I like the sound of that
Thanks group!
Matt
VIN....... um, no.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:24:49 EDT
From: dherv10@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: SEDOC (Broken Red DeLorean)
John and Group. Your welcome, just wish we would have had more time to Fix
the problem. That's what's nice about owning a De Lorean, people coming
together to help one another. We may have different paths in getting there,
but our goal is the same. I also enjoyed working with P.J. Grady side by side
and swapping Ideas.
Let's do it again.
John Hervey
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:13:09 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: vin plate
To my knowledge, the number plate on the frames never match the VIN plates
on the dash and door opening (although they seem to be close on many cars).
Perhaps they meant them to match at one time, but in the end, none of the
cars were assembled that way. Also as far as I know, there is no record
that keeps track of what frame number was used on which cars. Unless anyone
can say otherwise, it is safe to assume that the number on your frame is
completely arbitrary and has no relevance.
Walt Tampa, FL
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:03:00 -0700
From: "B Benson" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: badge
The badge talked about here is DeLorean specific. It says styled in Italy
for DMC by Ital Design. I wouldn't think the Masterati club would be selling
this. It's stainless with black lettering and the DMC is in the original
font the company used for their logo. I bought mine several years ago from
the DeLorean Motor Center. I believe the old defunct Delorean Club of
America had them made at some point. Don Steger bought much of the
remaining items that club had when they folded. This was a number of years
ago so I have no idea what, if any, of these things Don still has in his
inventory.
Bruce Benson
>
> The "badge" giving design credit to ItalDesign was
> available from the DeLorean Motor Center. Others may
> have (had) it as well. It was a "stick-on" non-stock
> item that many found attractive.
>
>
> You can get them from the Maserati club.
>
> Michael
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:21:27 -0700
From: "Mr Copies" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Rear Rotor measurement help ...anyone?
Hi
Could someone please measure the diameter, circumference and total height of
their rear rotors? There isn't another D close by to me to take a simple
look - so I'd appreciate the help.
I need to change my rear rotors this week and have a hunch mine have been
replaced with something other than original parts.
Thanks
mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:10:39 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: PJ Grady suspension vs. USA DMC suspension
I installed 4 PJ Grady shocks on my car with the PJ Grady lowered front
springs. I could type all day to you about the experience, but I'll try to
be brief. ANY new shock is better than an OEM shock. Unless you are into
higher-end upgrades, then don't fool with the custom shocks. For the money,
you can do very well with using the NAPA or Monroe equivelants that are
mentioned in the parts cross-reference lists that are floating around.
Also unless you are into higer-end upgrades, don't fool with replacing your
rear springs. I feel that DMC Houston's front & rear spring upgrade is
unnecessary. It is only the OEM front springs that are too tall. There
rear springs are fine. If you want to lower the rear springs too, you have
3 options that do not include replacing or cutting the springs.
Replacing the front shocks is easy. Just jack the car up, unbolt the old
shocks and put the new ones in You will need some spacers at the bottom.
If the OEM spacers don't fit, then make some or use a stack of washers.
The rear shocks are a different story. For that you either need the PJ
Grady shocks, Marty Maier's clamp collar conversion or Byrne Henninger's
conversion kit.
The PJ Grady rear shocks have a snap ring that is height adjustible, so you
can use this to lower your rear a little if you want.
Marty Maier's kit uses a clamp collar that can be placed anywhere along the
shock body which makes the rear height completely adjustible.
Byrne Henninger's conversion kit is basically a large tube with a ring
welded to the top. You then fit a standard shock inside this tube. It is
not height adjustible per se, but Byrne can have the tube made to any
lowering height you want. Once the tube is cut, you are through adjusting
the rear height.
I couldn't find Byrne's contact info off hand, but if you need it I can find
it for you.
I have some things to say about my experience replacing my front springs.
</Voice=Mr Rogers>
Can you say, "Pain in the neck" boys & girls?
</Voice=normal>
For both the front & rear springs, it is very difficult finding a compressor
and position that works. Don't expect to successfully remove or replace any
spring on your first try (or second or third try). Each application is
unique, and finding a spring compressor that works in your situation is
difficult.
For the rear springs I used an external spring compressor from Pep Boys
which they rented for free. I had to buy it & then they refunded my money a
few days later later when I was finished. They do this as a favor since
they get you in there to buy parts from them. For the front springs, I used
the only internal spring compressor that NAPA sells. On the first spring, I
ended up ruining the compressor getting the spring off. The thread galled
and striped out. NAPA then cheerfully replaced the compressor, and I was a
lot more careful the second time. The compressor was too big to fit only
the spring, so I had to compress the spring to the lower control arm and
then remove the spring WITH the lower control arm. If you try the NAPA
compressor, be sure to grease up the threads or they will gall and strip.
You will need an impact wrench or you will sit there for hours winding up
those springs. Remember that you shouldn't expect to compress it enough (or
in the right shape) on your first try.
Before I got my second NAPA spring compressor, I asked Rob Grady what he
uses. His uses a plate left over from his Chevy dealer days, and he mixes
this with a different type of compressor. Before I use the NAPA compressor
again, I'm going to have a plate custom welded up to fit in there. FYI, to
make the NAPA compressor work, I had to use a 2" piece of EMT tubing so that
the bolt wouldn't be too long and so that I could reach a socket on the bolt
head. You would have to see it to believe it. I have pictures of it and of
the last SEDOC event which I intend to post a link to in a few days.
One advantage about buying your shocks from Marty is that he may loan you
his spring compressor for the fronts. He has something that he says works
pretty good. Hey Marty, do you care to tell us where you got your spring
compressor?
Also expect to have to re-align your front end AFTER the new springs settle.
And they will settle a lot. (This is also a good time to replace your
steering rack boots and re-oil it.) When I first got the new springs on, I
was pissed to see the results. They didn't appear to lower the front hardly
at all. I then went to Sears for a front end alignment. Immediately
afterwards I left for the SEDOC cruise-in. By the time I got out of Florida
(about 300 miles later) my headlights were making a bright spot on the road
about one car-length in front of me. I could also tell from the handling
that my alignment was off again. But I am very happy with the looks. The
nose of the car finally sits where it belongs instead of way up in the air
like a 4WD AMC.
Walt Tampa, FL
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:40:27 EDT
From: Dmc3360@xxxxxxx
Subject: Long Island Event
I assume you are referring to the DeLorean Fall Foliage Tour next month that
is starting in Long Island. If so check the website below for a tentative
itenerary. Yes everyone is welcome to attend.
http://hometown.aol.com/dmc3360/tour.html
Gary Gore
Activities Director
DeLorean Mid Atlantic
VIN 3360
> Hello to all!
>
> I am new to this group, and am a serious Delorean
> enthusiast. My goal for the near future is to own one, and in
> looking for information about these cars, I found the website which
> had information about the event on Long Island. I live in Long
> Island, and would like to know if this is open to everyone. I would
> really enjoy attending or at least just going to the starting place
> to see a car in person. I have never seen one yet. So if you can
> let me know how to learn more about the car, I would appreciate it
> very much. I was looking for a repair book for the Delorean when I
> came across the website that had the info about this meet. Can
> anyone tell me where I can find it?
>
> Thank You,
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:30:59 EDT
From: RFLRKV@xxxxxx
Subject: Front Rotors For Sale
Any reasonable offer. Shipping would be $5 to $20, depending on your
location. I'm in San Diego.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 01:02:23 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Spare tire Question/Idea.
My wierd experience with the spare - when I got the car it would not
hold air either. This was caused by the pieces of foam under it in
the storage area holding moisture and causing the aluminum to pit. I
took the tire into a tire store and asked them to de-mount the tire
so I could clean up the rim. They could not get it off the rim!! They
were able to break it off the bead, so I did what I could with steel
wool by kneeling on the tire to hold it out of the way. It will now
hold air for a few weeks at a time, fine for as much as I drive it.
At any rate, your problem is likely with the rim and not the tire.
Bad thing about the sealant is that if it doesn't work, you end up
with some really disgusting goo in your spare tire well.
If your tire is really bad, like torn or something, a complete
replacement is not all that hard to come by. There is not much
demand, and anyone parting out cars ends up with a bunch of them (Bob
Miller where are you?)
FYI - the bolt pattern on a DeLorean is very standard, I was able to
bolt my DMC wheels onto my 96 Integra, although since the hub on the
Integra was smaller it would not have been safe to drive. For this
reason the Integra wheels would not bolt onto the DeLorean.
Actually, in my opinion, for everyday use the best spare for a DMC is
a cellphone. How often do you really have flat tires anyway?
Dave Swingle <--works for a cellphone manufacturer
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, DMCVegas@xxxx wrote:
> Ok, here's a question that I have, that I've never seen on the DML
> before. My spare tire is unable to hold air, so I can't really use
it
> in an emergency. I'm also not too keen on carrying a can of fix-a-
> flat around since it gets way too hot in the summer time. So,
here's
> my question. Can I use the tire sealant on my spare tire to keep
air
> in, and be able to use my tire? Is there a danger of any kind since
> the rubber is so old?
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:54:49 -0000
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Giorgetto Giugiaro decal
I just uploaded a picture of this decal to the files section. I took
this picture of Bruce Benson's car last year. The decal is placed
right below the vents on the quarter panel right behind the doors.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/files/decal.jpg
Jim Reeve
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:29:36 -0000
From: tgoodwin@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Cadillac alternator
I was hunting on the web and found this site:
http://personal.picusnet.com/dsontos/7157.htm
He talks about replacing the Ducellier with a 1980 Cadillac 100 Amp.
Has anyone tried this or confirmed this?
Travis
#3512
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:25:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Louie Golden <louie@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Your Insurance is WHAT?!?!
people who are paying $500 every six months are paying more than they should too. i got quotes from state farm less than a month ago, and they quoted me $200 every six months for full coverage, or $130 every six months for liability, AND I AM 19! that is WAY cheaper than my daily driver ('96 grand prix). if progressive is charging you that much, you really ought to get out, because that is absurd. -Louie
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