Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 9 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 2. Re: Aftermarket Angle Drive Replacement ? From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 3. Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update From: "Scot Stern" <SGSKBM@xxxxxxx> 4. Re: "rare" automatic D (wasFoolishness with numbers...) From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 5. Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update From: "jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx " <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx> 6. Re: Aftermarket Angle Drive Replacement ? From: "jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx " <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx> 7. Delorean Clock From: "Scot Stern" <SGSKBM@xxxxxxx> 8. Re: ss frame and metal detectors (traffic lights) From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 9. Short DeLorean reference From: "Jake" <jkampho@xxxxxxxx> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:06:07 -0000 From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update <SNIP> >Does a new switch/cap come with a rebuilt master > cylinder? Does anyone have any ideas or experiences concerning > cross-drilled rotors that they would like to share? > > Walt Tampa, FL Walt, Both the NOS and the replacement master brake cylinders DO NOT come with the switch. Be warned that if you buy an aftermarket master cylinder (not from a D vendor) that it will not come with the fluid tank and you'll have the transplant the old one to the new one. Nine out of ten times it will leak where the tank fits into the cylinder...unless your lucky and you seat it right. Steve ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:08:50 -0000 From: "Steve Rubano" <srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Aftermarket Angle Drive Replacement ? There are no aftermarket angle drives. Rob at PJ Grady has a replacment angle drive that is rebuilt with stainless steel "guts". It's part of his Hardcore series of products that he sells. Give him a call and ask him about the hardcore angledrive he has. Steve --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, Bailey7917@xxxx wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a suitable aftermarket speedometer angle > drive replacement ? ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:57:19 -0000 From: "Scot Stern" <SGSKBM@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update I had DMC in Irvine turn and cross drill my rotors when I had in the ar in for a shimmy in the brakes. The cost to resurface the rotors and cross drill them was more than the cost of a new set of rotors! The simmy is for the most part gone but the car is noisy when you apply the brakes. I think that if I had it to do over again I would have simply bought a new set of rotors and not bothered with the cross drilling procedure. I cannot atest to the stopping difference, if any. The cost and noise in concert with the fact that this is about the only change that I have made to a perfectly stock car with 10,000 miles makes me think that I made a bad decision. Scot 6452 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:54:54 +0100 From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: "rare" automatic D (wasFoolishness with numbers...) Brian wrote: > On this website for an automatic D for sale, it mentions that "only 800 > Automatics were ever produced": > http://www.kcimports.com/81Delorean/index.htm They also say: > This may be one of the nicest original pampered Beauties Left! We only > inventory the finest examples out there! This one has had all the updates[snip] For a "pampered beauty" I for one think it at least should have a "straight" luggage net; the elastic "edge" seems to be worn. As for all the updates; I might be wrong, but wasn't installing protective caps on the armrests an update? This one doesn't seem to have those. What IS interesting (to me at least) is the installation of a spring next to the gas cap. This probably helps popping the trunk; I think I'll do something similar since mine won't pop either. I've allready checked alignment of the lock and the striker-pin, they seem all right to me. The hook fully disengages the striker, so that can't be it either and the struts (mine need to be replaced) don't really help anyway with that small amount of leverage... Anyone got any other ideas??? Thanks in advance, JAN van de Wouw Thinking Different... Using a Mac... Living the Dream... Driving a DeLorean... #05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000 check out the Delorean-Files at: http://www.deloreanfiles.nl/ ------------------------------ PS the car looks like it has no flap, but does have the grooves AND it has the locking gascap, shouldn't that say something about its' VIN#? ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:50:52 -0000 From: "jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx " <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: cross-drilled brake rotor update Walter I think you just have just given the list members several good reasons to deal with the major Delorean venders when buying parts. With all of the problems you had it is the best advertisment for sticking with a favorite Delorean vender. The small gain you might achieve is offset by the agravation you are putting yourself through. If cross-drilled rotors improved the brakes that much all of the Delorean venders would carry them. On the subject of your brake fluid I would change it right away. You are correct that you must be prepared to rebuild the entire system as all of the seals could fail but the alternative is that the system further deteriorates and since the fluid is contaminated it could boil under heavy braking causing a loss of brakes. Flush the system completly with Castrol GTLMA dot 4. Using anything else is not compatible with the British seal compounds.(It will probably leak anyhow). You don't know what kind of fluid is in there or how old it is. The owner's manual calls for flushing the brake fluid every 2 years! With the Castrol you could probably double that to 4. On improving the brake system besides converting to dot 4 the other thing some people have done is changing the brake hoses to braided stainless steel. I think the Pacific club has a member who sells a set. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, "Walter" <Whalt@xxxx> wrote: > I have been unable to buy Auto Specialty cross-drilled brake rotors for the > rear of my Delorean. Here is what I have so far: Auto Specialty told me > that they have the parts in stock. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:54:05 -0000 From: "jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx " <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Aftermarket Angle Drive Replacement ? Get in touch with a Delorean vender. I know that P.J.Grady sells an improved ange drive and a kit to improve the mode switch. In both cases I don't think there is a crossover to anything else. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, Bailey7917@xxxx wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a suitable aftermarket speedometer angle > drive replacement ? ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 04:06:40 -0000 From: "Scot Stern" <SGSKBM@xxxxxxx> Subject: Delorean Clock Just a simple question. All of the parts lists that I see indicate that the clocks were only installed up to VIN number 6158. I have VIN 6452 and mine has a clock. Since my car only has 10,000 miles and everything else appears to be stock, is the parts list wrong or do I have an "unusual" car? Thanks, Scot 6452 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 03:08:09 +0100 From: Jan van de Wouw <Jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: ss frame and metal detectors (traffic lights) ****MODERATOR NOTE**** This about wraps up this thread. We're getting into hair-splitting. . . . . . Running the risc of going on on this for too long I would like to ad something to this discussion Gary wrote: > For a loop of wire to "detect" metal, there must be motion. > It is the car passing over/into the loop which generates a current in > the wire. This current is then sensed. Hence, it doesn't matter > where the bike stops. If it has enough metal to generate the > required current to set off the sensors, it will do so when the bike > enters the loop. This is not entirely true: there is a small current running through the loop continously, generating a small magnetic field. The current through this loop is monitored the whole time and doesn't change when the surroundings of the loop don't change. When a car or motor bike or even someone with a wheel barrow comes along the metal (any metal, magnetic or not) will interfere withe the magnetic field created by the loop. because of this there will be a change in the current running through the loop and if it's within certain parameters (higher or lower) it will notify the lights of the presence of something. The statement on putting your bike near the loop-wire is true: the current-change will be more noticable so you will be detected, by just riding into the loop the changes will be filtered out as spikes and the lights will not register you. You can not compare a hand matal detector and those used for traffic lights; only their principle of operation is the same, but the applications are so totally different that the software for both "looks" for other parameters that change. If you've ever used one; a metal detector also detects metal when in a stationary position... In conclusion; YES the SS-framed car WILL trigger the traffic lights. Thanks for putting up with me ;-) JAN van de Wouw Thinking Different... Using a Mac... Living the Dream... Driving a DeLorean... #05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000 check out the Delorean-Files at: http://www.deloreanfiles.nl/ ------------------------------ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:20:22 -0600 From: "Jake" <jkampho@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Short DeLorean reference One more for those who collect DeLorean media references: Tonight on the Discovery Channel there was a program called "Justice Files" (I think). In it they discussed entrapment and very quickly mentioned the DeLorean case. --For those who are interested, I'm sure you could check on the Discovery Channel website. Jake [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________
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