dmcnews-digest Friday, February 26 1999 Volume 03 : Number 486
In this issue:
DML: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
DML: Re: Want to buy a DeLorean in Europe
DML: Repainting Facias
DML: Automatic Transmission Cooler
DML: DeLorean parts/accessories for sale - UPDATED
DML: Headlight eyebrow!
DML: RE: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
DML: Ohio DeLorean Event This Saturday
DML: garage lift
DML: Re: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
DML: Re: Dash Question
DML: Antenna Location
DML: Stripe removal
DML: BTTF II & III Model (oriental version)
DML: Cool Website
DML: JZD on E!
DML: 3d Dimensions of the DeLorean
DML: Which Alternator
DML: Trip to PJ Grady's
DML: Re: Which Alternator
DML: Re: Antenna Location
Re: DML: garage lift
DML: DML Listing
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:37:46 -0500
From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
For some reason, my car sputters until about 3,000 RPM's under hard =
acceleration. This started right after I changed the fuel filter and =
accumulator. Is it possible that I need to change the plugs, wires, cap =
and rotor? I was planning on doing it anyway since they came with the =
car when I bought it last year, but it's just strange how this problem =
just arose after changing the filter and accumulator. Does anyone know =
what could be causing this problem? ---Dan
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:10:14 +0100
From: "Carte Blanche Limousine" <carteblanche@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Want to buy a DeLorean in Europe
Let me your fax number where I can send you a list of DMC to sell in
Europe. But most of the time DMC are on the average of 38.000 DM.
If you want you can reach me at 00.33.1.47.43.90.09 for more information
Cyril from France VIN 1807
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> De : Skorpionxx@xxxxxxx
> A : dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Objet : DML: Want to buy a DeLorean in Europe
> Date : lundi 15 fivrier 1999 22:27
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm searching for a DeLorean in Europe.
> I offer up to 25000 DM (15000 US$).
>
> Nina
>
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:22:50 -0500
From: David Sontos <sontos@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Repainting Facias
One of my projects for the DeLorean this winter was to repaint the front
and rear facias. I removed both facias and trucked them over to two
local paint shops for quotes. Each shop quoted $450 for the pair just to
paint over the existing paint. And because the facias already had
several layers of paint on them they would not guarantee that they
wouldn't crack when I tried to reinstall them back on the car. One shop
said they could partially sand them but that was another $200 and he
still would not guarantee them. That's when I decided to do the painting
myself.
The first task was to try and straighten the eyebrow over the one
headlamp. This was accomplished by heating the warped area with a
infrared spotlight like you have in bathroom ceiling heaters. Once the
area was quite warm and soft I clamped two pieces of wood across the
warped area to straighten it and removed the lamp and let it sit
overnight. In the morning I removed the splints and had a straight
fascia.
The next task was to remove the several layers of paint on each fascia.
I used Parks Pro Stripper furniture paint stripper. Methylene Chloride
is the active ingredient that removes the paint. The trick is to not let
the paint stripper sit on the bare plastic so you need to wash it off
before it can attack the plastic fascia. This took several days of
applying chemicals, scrubbing off paint, reapplying another coat of
chemicals and scrubbing off paint. Finally got down to bare plastic.
I couldn't find any paint suppliers to cross reference the DAU33584
paint spec so I found the PPG web site and found the central office
telephone number. To find a local PPG supplier call the main office at
(440)572-6100. My local dealer turned out to be just three miles from my
house. I wanted to prime the bare plastic, paint it and apply a clear
overcoat to my
facias. This required six components. I also found out that the DAU
paint tints has been discontinued and replaced with DBC33584. These are
the six PPG components:
DX814 Flexibilizer $22.10/pt
DU5 Urethane Hardener $42.85/qt
DT870 Reducer $10.65/qt
DBC33584 Paint $43.10/qt
DCU2001 Clear Urethane Overcoat $30.70/qt
DPX801 Plastic Primer $31.95/qt
The primer is applied straight from the can. The paint is applied as one
part paint and one part reducer. The clear coat is applied as two parts
clear, one part reducer, one part hardener, and one part flexibilizer.
The finished product looks pretty good too.
Dave Sontos
VIN 02573
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:11:09 EST
From: MMartin478@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Automatic Transmission Cooler
Hello ,
I have recently decided to add an auxillary cooler to my automatic
transmission and my search led me to a guy named Teri Jennings (thanks,
Dick
Ryan). I remember seeing his name in some of my older Delorean World and
Gullwing publications and I suspect those of you who have been involved
with
Deloreans for awhile may remember him. I called him today and found him
to be
quite personable and knowledgeable about the car, various club history
and
specialty parts (he evidently manufactured things like whale tales,oil
filter
adapters,stainless steel bumper letters,etc.) . Seems he had not been to
active lately with the Delorean hobby and was not aware of the DMCnews
list
,so I sent him an email with the address. Who knows, maybe he will
subscribe
and become a regular contributor.
By the way , his number is (626)334-5262
Regards,
Milt Martin
VIN#6370
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 06:39:09 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean parts/accessories for sale - UPDATED
I am getting ready to move, and I need to "purge" my garage of a bunch of
stuff that I can't take with me...I am offering the DeLorean-related
items to the DML readership first.
(1) Front fascia, new in box later light grey color, $500 plus FREE
shipping in US
(1) fixed door glass, passenger side $50 plus shipping
(1) original plastic coolant bottle, no cracks or leaks $75 plus shipping
(1) set of Fred Lockett designed lowering springs NEW, $250 plus shipping
(1) Parts Manual, bound $35 plus shipping
(1) Suggested Warranty Repair Times Manual, neat & hard to find $40 plus
shipping
(1) Shop Manual, bound $35 plus shipping
Thanks to all who so quickly responded -
Not-so DeLorean related...
(1) JVC AM/FM Cassette, shaft style, used in my DMC while the ASI was
being repaired $40
Email me if you are interested in any of these items...
James Espey
#10570
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:47:18 +0000
From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Headlight eyebrow!
Hi Gary,
This fella on the list seems to have had some success regarding the
'eyebrow' over the headlight.
Cheers, IAN
David Sontos wrote:
> The first task was to try and straighten the eyebrow over the one
> headlamp. This was accomplished by heating the warped area with a
> infrared spotlight like you have in bathroom ceiling heaters. Once the
> area was quite warm and soft I clamped two pieces of wood across the
> warped area to straighten it and removed the lamp and let it sit
> overnight. In the morning I removed the splints and had a straight
> fascia.
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:12:08 -0600
From: "Travis Graham" <travis.h.graham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
Hi Dan,
I had a problem like what you describe here (though I did not have
anything
replaced prior to the problem). Looking through the archives, you can
find
where I described my problem in detail toward the end of:
http://www.dmcnews.com/backissues/dml302.html. I felt that I was in for
some major repairs, but was pleasently surprised when my fuel/air mix was
determined to be the culprit. A quick and cheap solution. Hope yours is
equally easy.
Travis Graham
> For some reason, my car sputters until about 3,000 RPM's under hard
> acceleration. This started right after I changed the fuel filter and
> accumulator. Is it possible that I need to change the plugs, wires, cap
> and rotor? Does anyone know what could be causing this problem? ---Dan
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:43:59 -0500
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Ohio DeLorean Event This Saturday
This Saturday, February 27, is the DeLorean Club of Ohio's annual
meeting/party. This year it will be held in scenic Roscoe Village in
Coshocton, Ohio.
All DeLorean fans are welcome for this casual social occasion. We will
be meeting new members, planning our events for the year, discussing
some business, and reviewing items of interest everyone who loves
DeLoreans. The weather should be clear, so we even expect a few
DeLoreans to come out of winter slumber and make an appearance.
It should be a lot of fun.
For $15 you get the meeting and Prime Rib dinner, but I need to get
dinner reservations in soon! Feel free to Email or call me for details.
- - Mike Substelny
DeLorean Club of Ohio
(216) 321-5024
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:27:46 -0600
From: "John P. Chandler II" <chandler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: garage lift
I am considering installing a car lift in a garage addition which I just
completed and am looking for comments and recommendations. One lift that
I
am considering is an Eagle brand 9000 lb. asymmetrical lift. Also I have
seen lifts by Rotary which seem nice. Many thanks.
John
John P. Chandler II
Hayward, WI 54843, U.S.A.
Voice: 715-462-9337
Fax: 715-462-3682
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:59:23 -0600
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Re: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
I had a sputter problem, it went away after we cleaned the water out from
around the spark plug (down in the well). The plug boot was not properly
installed on the spark plug well. I had the car put on an engine analyzer
and the problem was found in the first minute.
Get a bright flash light and look in the wells. Also, when installing the
plug wires, put a small amount of tune up grease on the porcelin and also
where the boot goes over the top of the well. It will be easier to take
apart the next time.
Scott Mueller
ScottMueller@xxxxxxxxx
1981/002981 DOA/DMCNEWS
Deep South Delorean Owners
Future Events Page
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm
April 3, 1999 Mobile, AL Camillia Classic
April 17, 1999 Pensacola, FL Beach Bash and All British Car Show
May 2, 1999 Townsend, TN Blount British Car Gathering
May 21-23, 1999, DeLorean Eastern Regional Run 9, hosted by DeLoreans of
New
England
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 6:16 AM
Subject: DML: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
>For some reason, my car sputters until about 3,000 RPM's under hard =
>acceleration. This started right after I changed the fuel filter and =
>accumulator. Is it possible that I need to change the plugs, wires, cap =
>and rotor? I was planning on doing it anyway since they came with the =
>car when I bought it last year, but it's just strange how this problem =
>just arose after changing the filter and accumulator. Does anyone know =
>what could be causing this problem? ---Dan
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:30:08 -0800
From: Mike Lawrence <mlawrenc@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Dash Question
>
>
> My dash is good but I haven't put any type p\of preservative on it yet. I
> know the binnacle is vinyl covered as well as the door panels, but the
> flat
> part feels more like some type of hard material. Should this part be
> treated
> also? I don't want to make a greasy mess of it :^)
>
>
All parts of the dash and door panels are made of vinyl, with the
exception
of the switches and facias, which are plastic, and the leather seat
faces. On
the vinyl and plastic, use Lexol Vinylex. It's a great cleaner with UV
protectant and does not leave a greasy look or feel. You can use it
everywhere
except the leather. Do not use it on the leather! Lexol also makes
excellent
leather cleaners and conditioners.
I am not affiliated with this company, just a satisfied customer, yadda
yadda
yadda...
Mike
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:42:26 EST
From: DeLorean31@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Antenna Location
I have read some posts on antenna locations on the D. I read one post of
someone who plugged the antenna hole on the front fender to move the
antenna
with a silver steel disk. I am looking at a D to buy and it is really a
nice
car. However one thing that really bothers me is the fact that the
antenna is
a mast mount on the right front fender as was the case with some early
model
81's I think the rear retractable antennas look so much better. I read
there
was a factory service bulletin available showing how to move the antenna
from
the fender to the rear but I havent been able to find a copy of it. Does
anyone know where I can get a copy? Also is there anyone who has moved
the
antenna from the fender to the rear or a different location? Any
suggestions
of the best alternative to the front fender mount would be greatly
appreciated
Gary
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:03:40 -0500
From: "Watkins Family watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Stripe removal
My first Delorean had side stripes and after consulting with Delorean
Motor
Center I took a regular hairdryer and set it on high and slowly heated up
the stripe and it came right off. There was very little residue left
behind and what did remain I took a blending pad and got rid of it. After
regular cleaning and spraying with super-hi light spray stainless cleaner
you could never tell it was there.
Tom
#5742
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:09:44 -0500
From: "Yocom, Shannon" <syocom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: BTTF II & III Model (oriental version)
FYI -
My friend found me a BTTF III (rail road DMC) model for a late
birthday present. He said there was also a BTTF II (flying Mr. Fusion)
model kit there as well.
It is the oriental modeling company that did the series not Ertl's.
The model store is in Columbus, OH. If anybody wants specs on the
store's location to snatch up that model write me privately and I can
find out the info from that friend.
I would have gotten it my self but "you see I all ready got one" (monte
python).
Shannon
VIN# Not Yet!
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:15 +0000
From: "Martin Gutkowski" <mgutkowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Cool Website
Hi all,
Now this ISN'T strictly DeLorean related, but bare with me. The folowing
website is truly SUPERB for ANY car fanatic.
Packed with a mix of sidesplitting humour (Daft placenames/Dumb things
you've seen whilst driving for example) and thoroughly informative
sections (The speedtrap bible/The tyre and wheel bible and so on) this
site is well worth a look.
It took me several lunch-hours to read it all!
http://www.audicoupe.demon.co.uk
Although a UK address, it is an international site.
Martin
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:09:12 PST
From: "Aaron Gentry" <aries458@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: JZD on E!
Hey, all.
If any of you get the cable TV station E!, look for an "E! True
Hollywood Story" on JZD coming either April or March. It will be on a
Sunday at 8 p.m. I found out from someone that works for E!. She said
they just started filming now and the "usual turn-around is 1-2 months."
So keep an eye on the TV Guide!
- --Aaron
No VIN yet
"Yet" being the operative word here.
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 99 13:13:57 MST
From: "Jeff Phillips, x-4574" <PhillipsJT00.CS09.USAFA@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: 3d Dimensions of the DeLorean
Hey all,
I'm looking for someone who has taken 3d measurements of the DeLorean,
or that
can give more specific dimensions than offered in the User's Manual or
DeLorean FAQ. I plan on making a 3d model in OpenGL for a class, If
anyone is
interested in the OpenGL model after I finish please let me know. Please
reply directly to jeff_phillips@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Lee, I was wondering if you might have these dimensions from when you
produced
the models.
Jeff Phillips
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:40:29 -0700
From: mike atkinson <mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Which Alternator
Hello all,
I'm thinking about replacing the alternator in our Delorean some time in
the near future and have read several post in the archives some of which
are a little old not that it matters. I'm curious if there is an
alternator that seems to be a favorite or preferred model to install.
I have driven the car just enough to begin noticing the voltage drop
with the headlights on along with a few accessories "fans, ect. We have
an 83 with the Motorola 90 amp and am curious what everyone thinks about
amperage, installation, brands and so on. I've read about the 105 AMP
Delco, 100 AMP Delco, and the 144 Amp Delco and saw others on the parts
cross reference list. "Champion: 74-1502, Velo: 9AR, Excel: 14324"
Sorry if this is a boring question, just thought I'd use some of the
experience of the group out there to help make my decision. I'm going
to ask a couple of the DeLorean service centers as well before I decide.
BTW, as I told DMCJoe the car has been at a Midas shop for a few days
and the manager said he has never seen so many people stop by just to
see "that car" in the service bay.
Thanks
Mike Atkinson
VIN 16232
mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:02:33 EST
From: DeLorean31@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Trip to PJ Grady's
Well last week I made a trip to PJ Grady's. I am in the market for a D
and I
spoke to Rob about a couple he had at his shop for sale. After looking
at a D
here in north Jersey I drove another 2 hours out to Long Island to Rob's
place. I couldnt believe how many Deloreans he had there. Well I met Rob
upon arrival. He literally dropped what he was working on and took the
time
to talk to me about Deloreans. We then went for a test drive in one of
the
cars he had for sale. He told me some of the things to watch out for when
looking at Deloreans. I told him I was very interested in one D in New
Jersey
I had seen earlier that day. A 1981 with 2,000 original miles. He said
he
would drive out to look the car over for me for a fee which I thought was
very
reasonable for the peace of mind I would having Rob check over a car I
was to
purchase. I was very impressed with Rob's place. He was very courteous
and
really seemed to enjoy talking about Deloreans. I had never met him
before
but after hearing so many good things from people on this list I can say
that
they are all true when it comes to Rob. I have made a decision on which
D I
am going to buy of all the ones I have looked at and hope to get it in the
next couple weeks. One of the first places it will be going is to PJ
Grady's
to be checked over and to have a tiny ding on the hood fixed. Rob has
spoken
to me several times helping me with my purchase decisions which he does
not
make any money from. He has earned my future business. I am sure the
other
major Delorean sales and service centers out there are very reliable and
personable. Let me say that for those of you however who have not dealt
with
PJ Grady or met Rob as I had not before, the people on this list are
right.
He is an extremely knowledgeable and personable man who I look forward to
doing business with time and again in the future when my D needs proper
parts
or service.
Gary Gore
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:52:25 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Which Alternator
Mike,
The Motorola (Velo) is our top choice, the Delco is right behind. Call PJ
Grady he will hook you up with the best available at this time. BTW there
is a possibility that your current unit is OK and you may have a ground
problem. To find out for sure, take your alternator to a service facility
that can do a "bench test". This could save you $$$.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
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> From: mike atkinson <mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: DMCNews <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: DML: Which Alternator
> Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 3:40 AM
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm thinking about replacing the alternator in our Delorean some time in
> the near future and have read several post in the archives some of which
> are a little old not that it matters. I'm curious if there is an
> alternator that seems to be a favorite or preferred model to install.
>
> I have driven the car just enough to begin noticing the voltage drop
> with the headlights on along with a few accessories "fans, ect. We have
> an 83 with the Motorola 90 amp and am curious what everyone thinks about
> amperage, installation, brands and so on. I've read about the 105 AMP
> Delco, 100 AMP Delco, and the 144 Amp Delco and saw others on the parts
> cross reference list. "Champion: 74-1502, Velo: 9AR, Excel: 14324"
>
> Sorry if this is a boring question, just thought I'd use some of the
> experience of the group out there to help make my decision. I'm going
> to ask a couple of the DeLorean service centers as well before I decide.
>
> BTW, as I told DMCJoe the car has been at a Midas shop for a few days
> and the manager said he has never seen so many people stop by just to
> see "that car" in the service bay.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike Atkinson
>
> VIN 16232
>
> mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:40:35 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Antenna Location
Gary,
We have the factory instructions for installation of a power antenna at
the
left rear of the car. A small charge to cover postage and handling is all
that is necessary to send this information to you. If you are interested
email or call us directly.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>/770 631-4800
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/3755/
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> From: DeLorean31@xxxxxxx
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: Antenna Location
> Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:42 PM
I read there was a factory service bulletin available showing how to
move
the antenna from the fender to the rear but I havent been able to find a
copy of it. Does
> anyone know where I can get a copy?
>
> Gary
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:39:20 -0600
From: DON GOWLER <dongowler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: garage lift
John, I have one in my garage. It is a "Parking Solutions" model. I
believe they are out of business now but not sure. Anyway my contact was
Tim Turino in Madison at 800 236-1132 and 608 244-1110 several years ago.
I
use it to store the two 'D's' in one garage location and think it's great.
E-mail me direct if you want more info.
Regards, The Silver Fox
dongowler@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Chicago N/W suburbs
John P. Chandler II wrote:
> I am considering installing a car lift in a garage addition which I just
> completed and am looking for comments and recommendations. One lift that
> I
> am considering is an Eagle brand 9000 lb. asymmetrical lift. Also I have
> seen lifts by Rotary which seem nice. Many thanks.
> John
>
> John P. Chandler II
> Hayward, WI 54843, U.S.A.
> Voice: 715-462-9337
> Fax: 715-462-3682
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:35:44 -0500
From: Martins <martins@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DML Listing
Dear DML,=20
This is my first time posting here, even though I've gotten quite a few =
issues of the DML. Anyway down to the point: Are there any DeLorean =
enthusiasts, owners, or sellers in the Kentucky area? I'm just looking =
for any other DeLorean fans in the area! Just give me an e-mail or post =
back.=20
Thanks!
Wes (martins@xxxxxxx)
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