dmcnews-digest Monday, October 19 1998 Volume 03 : Number 428
In this issue:
DML: DeLorean Clock
Re: DML: 3rd Brake Light
DML: DMC Crash worthiness
DML: Chicago groups?
DML: Jacking up Deloreans
DML: Re: Re: Trailing arm reinforcement brackets
DML: I love DeLoreans!!!
DML: Where can I get a water pump pulley
DML: An apology to a DML'er
Re: DML: Re: Passenger Door / Speakers
DML: Speaker Boxes
DML: Re: Cargo Net?
DML: manual transmission problems
DML: [admin] Reports of the DML's death greatly exaggerated
DML: Apology...
Re: DML: Speaker Boxes
DML: A Delorean Ride Wanted
DML: re: voltage readings vs amperage output
Re: DML: I love DeLoreans!!!
DML: RE: Chicago groups?
DML: Eletrical Questions
Re: DML: Re: Man-O-Man , them thar spark plugs are in good.
DML: DeLorean for sale **reduced**
DML: RE: Steering column creep
DML: Re: Mailing LIst Window stickers
DML: Shuddering--bucking engine
DML: Steering Column - the wiggles
DML: Car alarm and JZD's address
DML: Back to the Future Memorabilia 4 Sale
DML: B28E engine
DML: Re:Them thar spark plugs...
Re: DML: manual transmission problems
DML: Re: manual transmission problems
DML: repair manuals
DML: DeLorean Spotting Disapointment....
DML: Re: DeLorean Clock
DML: Re: Where can I get a water pump pulley
DML: Delorean Models
DML: Frame/crumple zone
Re: DML: A Delorean Ride Wanted
Re: DML: DeLorean Spotting Disapointment....
Re: DML: RE: Steering column creep
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:12:25 -0400
From: Michael Pack <mpack1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Clock
Hello DMC Readers
My 81 clock sometimes will display and sometimes not. It does keep the
correct time and when it does work it will stay on. Any thoughts?
It is an Automatic and the display lights for the shift area is out as
well. Checked the fuse and the bulb but no luck. I cleaned the contact
for the clock where it plugs into the main harness. Round connection.
Thank you
Michael
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:08:17 -0500
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" <nick.kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: 3rd Brake Light
>Wow! This looks good!
>
>Anyone know the source of the light?
>
>http://www.zip.com.au/~delorean/delorean/dmc12.jpg
Try a late model Suburban, Tahoe or equivalent.
NK
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:30:01 -0500
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" <nick.kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DMC Crash worthiness
A couple years ago a local trooper pulled me over. I immediately started
sweating since I was driving to the tach and jumped to the conclusion that
it wasn't working either. Turns out he was doing accident reconstruction
work relative to a fatal Delorean accident. An oncoming vehicle had
crossed
the centerline and the two vehicles did the usual dance where each is
deciding where to go. The D got broadsided and the owner killed.
I expressed surprise indicating one of the reasons the gullwings were
selected was due to their strength and accident worthiness. He indicated
that what usually happens in a side collision is not that the door
contacts
the occupant but rather the occupant contacts the door. The occupant's
side
ways motion either causes sever neck injury or head damage from the
accident. This is why you are seeing airbags on the side.
The trooper offered the following advice "go for the right shoulder in
such
an event since there is a much higher chance of survival."
Since I enjoy reading messages from all of you, remember to drive smart
and
defensively and not to get to confident of the vehicles crash worthiness,
regardless of its rating.
NK
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:28:47 PDT
From: "Jim Plamondon" <saab82@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Chicago groups?
Hi this Jim P.
I just moved to Chicago, is there any meeting or groups here?
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:06:27 -0500
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" <nick.kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Jacking up Deloreans
I've jacked up my D what should be hundreds of times by now and have never
had any problems. I STRONGLY recommend that anytime you jack the frame to
use padded (rubber or wood) pads so that you do not scratch the frame to
bare metal. I also like to spread the load more than a standard floor
jack
so that it does not crack the finish. If you do scratch or crack the
finish, water will get in and it will eat you frame until you have no
metal
under the epoxy(but the epoxy will still look good).
To support the car when working or over winter, I made stands of scrap 2x6
laid on their sides. They have a base wider and the tops are larger than
most jack stands. When removing the body I used 4x4s to span the body for
jacking and storage.
I also work by the rule that no matter how much I love my D it does not
feel
the same for me. I make sure it is well supported.
NK
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:18:28 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Re: Trailing arm reinforcement brackets
Bob,
I know what your talking about and I searched my data base and could not
get a hit. Over the weekend I will run through my hard files and see if I
can locate that info.
Bob can you give me source information for the mirror switch mentioned in
the D'World article.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:03:41 PDT
From: "Jason Trinklein" <jasonteknut@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: I love DeLoreans!!!
I first loved DeLoreans back when I was only 6 years old. (which tells
you I'm not the oldest person on the list {I'm only 15}). I saw the
movie Back to the Future, and that amplified my interest. I started,
just recently, to study up on the car. I have visited too many web
sites, and downloaded so many pictures, that I have one for my
backround, and I have a slideshow of DeLorean pictures as a screen
saver. I'm new on this list. Since I'm so young, I don't have alot of
money, and I can't drive, yet I still have this burning desire for a
DeLorean. Hey! Call it a weakness!!! Whatever. Please contact me at my
E-mail adress of JasonTekNut@xxxxxxxxxxxx Thanks. I have alot of
information on the "D". If you want to know anything I'll try to provide
some information. Currently I'm reading (for fun) a biography on John Z.
Delorean. Well, that's all. Please e-mail me. I want to feel included
with a DeLorean something. They are so cool!
Sincerely: Jason R. T.
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:29:00 -0400
From: "Ronald Pohala" <rpohala@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Where can I get a water pump pulley
Where can I get a waterpump pulley Please give me web site or phone
number I
am in Penna. but don't have Gradys contact number. Any other place one
could
be found.
Thanks
Ron
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:19:06 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: An apology to a DML'er
A recent posting I made regarding VIN's referred to a DML'er who
identified his DeLorean by three digits, possibly confusing some folks.
He emailed me, quite indignant, saying that I made him feel "like a jerk".
Claude, I apologize if that made you feel like a jerk.
Moderating the DML for over three years and an estimated 7,000 messages,
I'm sure that I made a few bad calls in messages that I have posted, have
not posted and postings that I have authored, as the one above indicates.
Again, my apologies to Claude for apparently singling him out, that was
not my intent.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 02:26:09 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Passenger Door / Speakers
>speakers [in the rear panel] are so obvious that they
>clearly indicate that you probably also have a pretty good
>system, tuner, amp, CD player, etc. Then you become more
>of a target for theives - I did - and they also took the rear panel.
Hmm.. I love problems, it makes the mad scientist in me come out.
Solution 1: Cover the speakers in a like-colored acustically
transparent material. Not as appealing as a well designed
speaker grille, or a high-tech subwoofer cone, but it'll do.
Solution 2: Make yourself a piece of carpeted hardboard
big enough to cover all speaker openings. It can lay flat on
the rear shelf (virtually unnoticable) and be pivoted upwards
to hide your speakers. You could even get fancy and attatch
hinges to the base, and maybe even a pull cord to raise it.
OR it could be spring loaded with a clip in the down position:
just swivel the clip and it swings up to hide the speakers!
OK, I'm starting to get a little off topic here...
<sigh> The things we must to just to have good speakers, eh?
Take care all!
- - Dave
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:43:15 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Speaker Boxes
I have shopped for such a unit, and have found some that will fit, but
none that fit "Perfectly".
My requirements have been:
2 10 inch woofers (or larger)
Must fit under the rear dome light (about 9 inches high)
Must follow the slope of the cargo net, so the net can be put back.
I have not found anything that will meet those requirements, so I have
started to build my own box. This has not gone so well because of the
odd angles of the area. The bottom slopes down, so the profile of the
box should only have a single right angle (at the top rear corner).
Any one working on a similar project? or found any pre made units that
will fit?
Marc
Joe LoRe' wrote:
>
> carpeted panel behind the parcel shelf. If you really like bass purchase
> one of the many models of hatchback type speakers available from many
> retail sound suppliers. If you shop around you will find many units that
> will fit perfectly on the parcel shelf.
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:45:28 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Cargo Net?
Dan asked:
> Anyone have a or know where I can get a cargo net for my D?
> Mine is a little torn up and I'd like a replacement.
I got a new cargo net a few years ago from the Kapac Warehouse,
which is now owned by DMC Houston 1-800-USA-DMC1. They probably
still have nets in stock. If your net is like my old one then the whole
problem is most likely in the elastic. You *might* be able to repair it
by
replacing the elastic. If you want to attempt this check out a fabric
store
for heavy black elastic cord and let us all know if it works.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:54:22 -0400
From: "Larry Shulan" <lshulan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: manual transmission problems
My '81 5 speed is starting to have some problems with 2nd gear. It seems
that when I first start driving, shifting from first into 2nd is a
problem.
It feels 'mushy', there isn't the usual clunk I hear and feel in the
shifter. However, after a minute or so, the problem goes away. Then I
can
shift from 1st to 2nd without any difficulty. But most of the time when I
downshift into second, the same problem happens. I think it must be the
syncromesh because if I am at a stop I can shift into second without any
problem, it only is a problem upshifting while moving first mile or so and
some of the time when downshifting. Here's my questions: are there any
adjustments from the outside or does the whole transmission have to come
out? Can it be a problem with the fluid (I was leaking fluid from the
seals
and had my station top it off and the fluid was the right number but I
noticed that the leakage had a milky color which I wonder if was water in
it) - I had the seals replaced today and the fluid topped off again and
the
problem is the same if not worse. The problem does seem to be worse as
the
days get colder so I was thinking maybe the fluid is too thick.
If it does need to be taken apart, is this a really big job to work on the
syncromesh if that's it and should I take it to a transmission shop vs my
local mechanic who is usually pretty good at general repairs?
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:36:36 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: [admin] Reports of the DML's death greatly exaggerated
Recently an overzealous subscriber mistakenly reported the death of the
DML. Nothing could be further from the truth. I haven't been sued, or
driven to give up the list by my fiancee. My recent DeLorean accident
hasn't caused me to lose interest in the marque.
The DeLorean Mailing List is moving forward with plans to move to a new
server, though that will be transparent to the average netsurfer. Credit
cards will soon be accepted for products at the website, and the third
edition of the DeLorean Owners Directory is on track for an early 1999
release. The next 'zine (#4) is in process, too.
But the biggest news regarding DMC-News will have to wait a few more
weeks...I think everyone will be be very happy with the news, too.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com
PS - Contingency plans are being drawn up to continue the DML in the
event of a severe illness or accident that would keep me from the DML
helm - fear not DML'ers! We are here to stay!
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:22:12 +0200
From: Mats Karlsson <ford.prefect@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Apology...
Ok,
I would hereby like to formally apologise for my seemingly rash
behavior...
My part of the world must simply have lost contact with www.dmcnews.com
for about 3 weeks, which probably can be confirmed by others in the
area..
I hope I didnt cause any serios problems,
Matt
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:26:09 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: Re: DML: Speaker Boxes
Marc A Levy wrote:
>
> I have shopped for such a unit, and have found some that will fit, but
> none that fit "Perfectly".
>
> My requirements have been:
> 2 10 inch woofers (or larger)
> Must fit under the rear dome light (about 9 inches high)
> Must follow the slope of the cargo net, so the net can be put back.
>
> I have not found anything that will meet those requirements, so I have
> started to build my own box.
>
> Any one working on a similar project? or found any pre made units that
> will fit?
>
At the Cincinatti Show, Rob Grady had a speaker "box" on the rear shelf,
I think he called it "Ampzilla"?
It looked nice and had super sound, I do not know what it cost.
Give Rob a call.
Scott mUeller
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:15:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Cheryl Classick <jettrink@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: A Delorean Ride Wanted
I know you're out there, we've been told there are quite a few
Deloreans in the Cincinnati area, so how do we know if we want
one never even had the chance to ride in one or drive one?
Come on folks, is that too much to ask for?
Anthony and Cher
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:05:47 -0400
From: "Larry Shulan" <lshulan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: re: voltage readings vs amperage output
Joe LoRe at DMC Joe/Delorean Services,
It's a Motorola alternator. On a long trip doing turnpike driving a
couple
of days ago, the voltmeter finally got up to exactly 13 volts but
absolutely
no higher. If you could let me know where and what to check for with
grounding if this could point to the problem, I'd be very appreciative.
Thanks, Larry S
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:50:25 +0000
From: Michael Hanley <mjhanley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: I love DeLoreans!!!
Jason, I can totally relate to your passion early in life as I have
been obssesed with DeLoreans ever since Back to the Future when I was 11
years old. Actually I think it took my interest before then as I
vaguely remember a gull winged car that would sometimes be parked at a
supermarket nearby. Looking back I think it was a Bricklin but at leat
I was thinking in the right direction. So for 13 years I obsessed, cut
every article & picture out of the back issues of car magazines at my
High School library, joined the association, bought all the souvenirs,
etc., read all the books. I am writing because I want you to know that
no matter how long you wait your dream will come true. In February of
this year I became the proud owner of VIN #0981, 81 gas flap, black
interior, it is everything I dreamed of and more. She's sitting in my
driveway as I write. So dreams do come to those who wait, I got her at
23 years old and I am amongst the new generation of younger owners.
Best wishes & I know you will be among them someday as well.
Mike Hanley:)
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:00:15 -0500
From: Gowler Don-CFPO01 <cfpo01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: Chicago groups?
Give me a call or e-mail. Be glad to discuss our club.
Regards,
Don Gowler (The Silver Fox)
President: DeLorean Midwest Connection
4831 Deepwood Lane
Palatine, Illinois 60067
(847) 435-3733 work
(847) 397-0322 home
cfpo01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.delorean-midwest.org
> ----------
> From: Jim Plamondon
> Reply To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 7:28 PM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: Chicago groups?
>
> Hi this Jim P.
>
> I just moved to Chicago, is there any meeting or groups here?
>
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:10:29 EDT
From: NJP548@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Eletrical Questions
Hey List,
I have been experiencing some minor electrical problems in my De lorean
that
I just wanted to ask the list before I did anything about them. First,
after
I turn on my wipers and then turn them off they always to a single swipe
every
7 seconds. It stops after I turn off the car and starts up again
whenever I
turn that wiper on again. I was thinking it was the wiper delay thing or
something, but I wasn't sure. Second, my fuel pump would turn on for a
second
and my R.P.M's would flicker if I flashed the bright lights when the
engine is
off, I'm no sure where to start with this problem. And Finally, my
drivers
side lock, both locks and unlocks both doors, but the passenger lock only
makes the drivers side lock button flicker like it wants to unlock it or
lock
it but it can't, is this a bad connecting at the passenger side solenoid
or do
I have to look elsewhere for the problem? Also my car is idling at around
1500-2000 R.P.M's, how would I be able to lower that number to where its
supposed to be. Also, what R.P.M. is it supposed to idle at?
Later,
Nick
VIN#1852
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:25:38 EDT
From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Man-O-Man , them thar spark plugs are in good.
In a message dated 10/16/98 2:06:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
<< One more thing, if you install the platinum plugs you won't have
to
replace them for at least 60k miles. >>
Hi Joe,
Who is the manufacture and what is the part numbers for these platinum
plugs?
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic 9D NY
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:05:42 -0700
From: "Todd Saylor" <todd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean for sale **reduced**
I've got an '82 DeLorean for sale. It's in great condition, and I've
reduced the price to $16,900. The car is located in Northern California.
My wife and I are expecting so unfortunately it is time to sell. For more
details and lots of pictures, see:
http://home.earthlink.net/~trsaylor/
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:13:38
From: Massimo Troiani <maxt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: Steering column creep
Thanks to all for your responses. I forgot to mention that I did know
about
the adjustment nut below the steering wheel. I have tightened this as much
as I can and still it creeps down. I can push it up again but a few
minutes
later it goes back down.
The up and down movement is not due to the adjustment knob being loose.
It's hard to explain but it's as if it has a pivot right where the
adjustment knob is and it kind of bends. As I said it's hard to explain.
Anyway since no one else has had a similar experience, I will try to fix
it, however I can. If anyone is interested in the outcome, you can e-mail
me direct.
Thanks again
Massimo
PS. If people don't start buying some christmas cards, James is going to
get indegestion :-)
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:22:25 -0400
From: chip <chip@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Mailing LIst Window stickers
well there ladies and gents i tried to put this is out before but i
guess it didn't work. i am going back to the idea of the DML window
stickers i saw quite a few issues back. I think that this a good idea in
support for the list. My car club uses the same idea as we put stickers
with the club name on our back window. I could get ones made for the DML
through my club and get them much cheaper.
All I need to know.....
1. Is there people out there in support of this? I would be
extremely willing to do this if there was support.
2. What should it say? (possibly.......WWW.DMCNEWS.COM)
3. And how many people would be interested? (Delorean owners or not.)
I doubt they would be much and all benifits would go to Espey and
the DML.
if anybody likes this idea just e-mail me at chip@xxxxxxxxx thanx
Chip Shirek
Vin# 1230
www.variousimages.com
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:21:40 EDT
From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Shuddering--bucking engine
Hi,
Has anyone out there experienced this?
Several weeks ago. My car would start to shudders or bucks when it
accelerates.
It wants to die out, but it picks up again and does this in secession
several
times, then it smooths out with some loses of power after it stops
shuddering. It does this whether the engine is hot or cold.
I call PJ Grady and Rob said that there maybe water in the system or bad
gas.
I added dry gas and fuel injector cleaner hoping to resolve this. I did
that
for several tanks of gas over a period of one week. I still had the same
problem, so for safety measures I had PJ Grady change the fuel pump along
with
a new inlet suction screen and the two "in and out" lines from the pump
(external). Thinking that one of these componets was the cause of the
problem? We did kept the two rubber caps and the fuel pump suction
(internal)
line for they are still good.
Changing the fuel pump helped in the beginning. It gave the engine more
"pep." The new pump was nosier then the old one (the old one is 30 months
old). It has been two weeks or so, and the DeLorean is doing it again.
The
same behavior as several weeks ago before the changing the fuel pump. It
has
happen again today and yesterday.
The strange thing is that is does this when the fuel tank is below nine
gallons, when the gauge reads about 1/4 tank. Associated with the
shuddering
of the engine the fuel pump makes the noise ONLY upon or when the clutch
is
engaged. That is strange, for it has
never done this before and the symptoms goes away when the tank gets fill
up?
A bad new fuel pump? This is a new one on me. Answers?
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic 9D NY
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:03:20
From: Massimo Troiani <maxt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Steering Column - the wiggles
OK so I have just come back inside after playing around with the D. I
noticed that the end of the steering column (the one which stops at the
metal plate, behind the pedals) is not attached to anything and moves
around freely ( and I mean a-round), to some degree. There must be a cable
or something inside the steel shaft that stops it coming off altogther.
So,
is this normal?
Massimo
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:54:48 EDT
From: eurojet@xxxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Car alarm and JZD's address
I am still looking for John Delorean's address and would also like to
know if any owners out there have installed a Lo-Jack system on their
DeLoreans. Trust me, the car will never be out of my sight but I'd still
be less paranoid with the system. Thanks, Fil.
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:39:32 EDT
From: DGA7782@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Back to the Future Memorabilia 4 Sale
I'm selling some of my Back to the Future memorabilia. For sale is a
Back to
the Future Part 3 Video Standee. It has only been assembled once
(duration 1
hour) and is still in pristine condition with beautiful color. It
features
Marty, Doc, Clara and the DeLorean. Package also includes a window static
cling that has a promotion for Back to the Future 3 and Bird On A Wire
videos.
All comes in original box with BTTF logo on the side.
+Bonus Item. I am also including Back to the Future 2 trading cards. I
have
2 boxes of unopened packets.
(1 full box of 36 packets - Unopened)
(1 box of 24 packets - Unopened)
(1 packet of 19 misc. cards)
These cards are unopened, except for the misc.
package. All cards have original gum, stickers and
cards inside. The boxes are not in new condition since
they have some age and a black mark on them,
however, the cards and wax packaging are intact and
undamaged.
Please contact me through e-mail at DGA7782@xxxxxxx
for any questions regarding these items.
This is also posted on www.ebay.com (the online auction) Just search for
"Back to the Future III Standee".
Thanks.
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:43:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bill Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: B28E engine
Well, my parents just bought a brand new Volvo S70, and while I was
looking through some Volvo engine specs page, at the page
http://www2.mf.uni-lj.si/~jurbancic/engines.htm
I stumbled across the listing for the PRV (Volvo, of course, calls it the
B28F) and there is mention in there of a "B28E" which is a
high-compression fuel-injected engine reputed to produce between 155 and
170 HP (without catalytics). The B28F that we all know so well is listed
in the same page as producing 136 HP, which seems about right.
Are there any Volvo engine wizards out there who might know if this B28E
is substantially the same as the B28F? If it is, then it might be
possible to drop one of them directly in (perhaps using an existing
DeLorean-spec oil pan etc.) and gain a few HP. A turbocharged B28E would
probably easily exceed 200HP, possibly as much as 215-220 HP. It could be
a big win, the largest advantage being the potential for easy conversion
since the engine is nearly identical to the stock one. Anyone know
anything about this B28E?
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:53:02 -0600
From: Andrew Saciuk <saciuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re:Them thar spark plugs...
> Hi All!
I have been reading the DMC News for a while...I hope to have enough
money one
day to purchase a Delorean, but for now I have to remain content reading
about
the exploits of other owners!
My comment is to Dave Price, who wrote of having trouble with seized
spark
plugs...Be careful! I tried removing a seized spark plug in my old '86
Dodge
D-50. No amount of WD-40 could coax the stiff plug out. As the plug's
threading
snapped. I was left holding the plug, and the threading remained in the
engine
block. I tried everything I could to get the bottom part out. In the
end, that
little tune up adventure cost me $650.00 CDN.
Forgive my ignorance, but are the DMC-12 cylinder heads aluminium?
The
mechanic said that problems like that occur, when plugs are installed on
a warm
or hot engine. He recommended doing so on a cold engine, as the
characteristics
of heated aluminium (softer metal) can lead to nasty results, like in my
case.
Good luck! : }
saciuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:51:06 -0700
> From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: DML: Man-O-Man , them thar spark plugs are in good. / DirectHits
>
> Well folks, I'm trying (in vain) to replace my spark plugs, and four of
> them
> won't budge at all. (well, OK, I haven't tried to loosen the one closest
> to
> the driver's seat yet) .. They've been sitting in a pool of WD-40 for a
> day
> now, and I've tried taping, wiggling, loosening, tightening, and I'm
> starting to get worried. I can't just leave those plugs in there forever.
> Can anyone help? I've been using a standard socket wrench and a variety
> of
> driver extentions, a 16MM deep socket, and the equivalent SAE socket..
> nothing will make them break free... I really don't want to do damage,
> and
> I'm using as much force as I feel comforable with (most of my 135lbs).
>
> I'm pulling the plugs off to try a new ignition product called DirectHits.
> So far it looks like it will require some modifications to the spark plug
> wire ends because they add a couple inches to the height of the spark
> plug,
> but they sound like they'll work really well. I've put it in my Go-Ped,
> and
> it made the engine run much smoother.. They're supposed to increase
> milage/performance, etc.. Check 'em out at www.directhits.com if you're
> interested.. I'll post my findings if I can ever get these plugs out!
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> - - Dave
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Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:23:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bill Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: manual transmission problems
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Larry Shulan wrote:
> My '81 5 speed is starting to have some problems with 2nd gear. It seems
> that when I first start driving, shifting from first into 2nd is a
> problem.
> It feels 'mushy', there isn't the usual clunk I hear and feel in the
It might simply be due to colder weather approaching and the resulting
stiffness in shifting that accompanies all manual transmissions as the
temparature drops and the fluid thickens. Especially since it goes away
as the "juices get flowing."
> some of the time when downshifting. Here's my questions: are there any
> adjustments from the outside or does the whole transmission have to come
I wouldn't expect so. In most cases it is easier to remove a transmission
to work on it - there's really no such thing as minor transmission
trouble. :}
> out? Can it be a problem with the fluid (I was leaking fluid from the
> seals and had my station top it off and the fluid was the right number
> but I noticed that the leakage had a milky color which I wonder if was
> water in
Might be, but since it affects only second gear I would consider
mechanical problems first. The milkiness could have easily come from
outside the seals and might not even be present inside the transmission,
in which case this is ruled out. Especially since you just had your fluid
changed in the process of changing the seals (although contaminants can
remain in the transmission during this process, I still can't account for
why only one gear, second gear at that, would be affected).
Other things that can sometimes cause hard shifting might be bent shifter
forks (seems to happen to DeLoreans a lot) and worn synchro gears. But
worn gears frequently cause grinding while shifting. Bent shifter forks
can be fixed fairly easily, worn synchro gears is harder.
I think that what you might have is a fairly minor problem that is
exacerbated by the cold weather, which makes many transmissions shift
poorly. How many miles are on the car? Higher-mileage cars tend to
suffer more "wear and tear" transmission problems and just general stiff
shifting is among these.
> If it does need to be taken apart, is this a really big job to work on
> the syncromesh if that's it and should I take it to a transmission shop
> vs my local mechanic who is usually pretty good at general repairs?
Well, how much do you trust your local mechanic and how much does he know
about transmissions? :} See if you can find out what the problem really
is before deciding who to have fix it.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:11:11 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: manual transmission problems
Larry,
Your "mushy" 2nd gear problem is probably due to a bent roll pin. The
DeLorean manual trans is a standard set up and is easily serviced by any
experienced trans shop. Removal and disassembly of the unit is required.
Your local mechanic, with the help of the DeLorean Workshop & Parts
manuals, should be able to easily replace this item.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:22:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: brian metz <metz.50@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: repair manuals
Mine is a 1983 D.
1. In reading through the past lists, I found a question that I also
have.
Someone asked where to get a copy (or where to download) the service
manuals
for the D. A response stated that they were available from a
Hydro-E-Lectric. I called information to get the number, but the number I
was given was only a fax line. Does anyone have this number or know know
of
another place to obtain the manuals?
2. I read in the 'zine about the cooling fan re-wire. Upon inspecting my
D, I found that it has the 3 wire jumper fix (with two 20 amp fuses). I
also realized that anytime the ignition is on, the cooling fans are
running.
I don't think this supposed to happen. I am planning on changing it to
upgrade suggested in the 'zine, but I was wondering if anyone had any
suggestions about the constant run problem.
3. Also, I have one turn signal that flashes normally and one that
flashes
very quickly. They both work, but this does not seem normal. Is this a
common problem for the D? Does it sound like a flasher is needed, a bad
ground, or some exotic problem that I should know about for my car?
Thanx, Brian Vin # 16584
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:29:15 PDT
From: "Jason Trinklein" <jasonteknut@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Spotting Disapointment....
I was out with my mom one day, and I spotted a great looking DeLorean at
a car dealership. I made her stop the car so that I could have a look.
To make a long story short, I insisted that I go on a test drive with
this thing. Now, two weeks later, it is still there, and we have the
intention of test driving it. We got the keys, and unlocked the door.
Now, this may seem steep (and it realy is steep once you hear about it's
condition) , but it cost $26,000. We opened the handle, and the
hydrolics did nothing. I lifted the door full-open, and it slammed shut
again, right after I let go. To save my time and yours, I will simply
tell you what's wrong with it. All the hydrolics are shot, on both
doors, the back engine compartment doors, and the hood. The the driver
side window did not operate. The passenger side did, but it only opened.
I had to push it back up. The dashboard is discolored due to the sun.
The hood for the trunk does not latch closed, also. It also might
contain some hidden problems. This car quite obviously is not worth as
much as I mentioned earlier. My dad was contemplating pechasing a
DeLorean for me to drive when I get older, but he, like myself, was
greatly dishearted at the site a price of this car.
There is a positive side to this car, surprisingly. 1. it is a
delorean 2. 1982, with ONLY 450 MILES! 3. Engine looks like new.
The car dealership is going to try to get it started, and they
will call us some time this week for the test drive. (previously, it did
not start due to the battery)
Could someone please tell me how much this car is REALLY worth?
Please? I figure if they drop the price down to your suggestion, my dad
might purchase it for me to work on until the time I can drive. Thanks.
A DeLorean buddy,
Jason R. T.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:35:28 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: DeLorean Clock
Michael,
Your clock receives power through the red orange wire that goes to the
dash
light dimmer. Check the connections at the dimmer. Your gear shift
indicator lamp has either dropped out of its holder or the lamp is burnt
out.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:20:10 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Where can I get a water pump pulley
Ronald,
Not knowing what your needs are for a pump pulley I would like to pass
this
information to you. The original pulley is not a replaceable item, because
of its design and position, the pulley will usually deform when being
pressed on or off. There is a heavy duty custom version which is used for
DeLorean replacements. Check with Rob Grady at 1 800 350-7429 for more
details.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:32:43 EDT
From: WINGD2@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Delorean Models
A company in Seattle, Morris Manor Collectables, has a line of small
"matchbox" size cars made by a company called Autosclupt. This line
includes
a Delorean. It is about 1/92scale and is done in a resin/aluminum material
that looks almost exactly like peweter. This model is molded in 1 piece
and
has no working parts, it is just for display. It is very nicely detailed
and
sells for about $15ea.
Lori Newby, who owns this shop, just informed me that Autosclupt has
just
come out with a larger, 1/43 scale, version of the Delorean. I have not
seen
it yet, but I understand it is also very nicely done and detailed. Cost
on
the larger version is about $42ea.
For anyone interested, Lori can be reached at: morrcoll@xxxxxxxxxx
or
call her at 253-891-2775.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 13:39:27 -0400
From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Frame/crumple zone
If I wanted or ever had to replace the entire crumple zone on my frame, =
where would I be able to purchase one. Are they still available? And if =
they are, how much are they? Any new, or only (clean)used >
available? Other options???
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:13:12 EDT
From: KKoncelik@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: A Delorean Ride Wanted
You and I keep missing at Toots on Monday I would be glad to give you a
ride
in the DeLorean. Just e-mail me back and lets try for Next Monday (not
this
Monday)
If any other D owners in cincinnati want to Join richard and I usually
meet
along with the other Ken at Toots on Montgomery and Fields Ertel every
Monday
from about 7 to 9 so see you ther.
Ken
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:37:27 EDT
From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean Spotting Disapointment....
Hi Jason,
I don't know where you live, but if it's anywhere near Los Angeles, I'd be
very happy to show you my car. The problem with lo-mile cars is
classically
described by your experience. Some dealer gets a lo-mile car and jacks
up the
price. A person buys it and the fun begins. Often the buyer has paid way
too
much for a car that is going to be very expensive to bring back to life.
On
the other hand, you might be the one in a thousand who lucks into a very
good
car. BTW, apparently, many lo-mile cars are really hi-mile cars that had
broken angle drives. It's no biggie except that, without the service
records
as a back-up, there is no way to know what you are looking at when you
read
the miles on the odometer. Take your time, there is a great 'D' out there
with your name on it. Good luck, Joe VIN #1273
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:37:07 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Steering column creep
At 03:13 PM 10/17/98, you wrote:
>Snip...............
>
>The up and down movement is not due to the adjustment knob being loose.
>It's hard to explain but it's as if it has a pivot right where the
>adjustment knob is and it kind of bends. As I said it's hard to explain.
>
>Anyway since no one else has had a similar experience
I have the same problem and used a zip tie to force mine to remain in one
spot as well as a very over tightened adjustment knob. Its crude but works
no problem.
Lee
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