dmcnews-digest Monday, August 31 1998 Volume 03 : Number 408
In this issue:
DML: Antenna and Digest # 406
Re: DML: angle drive and warm engine
Re: DML: angle drive and warm engine
Re: DML: Some questions...
DML: Top Picture...
DML: Re: Radio Control
DML: Digest# 406 and antenna woes
DML: John DeLorean
DML: D's in Australia
DML: Automatic lock inspection/removal proceedure question
Re: DML: John DeLorean
DML: Wiring Diagram for CRAIG Radio wanted
DML: RC responce
Re: DML: John DeLorean
DML: Re: Quarter Panel
DML: Re: Antenna
Re: DML: RC responce
Re: DML: Re: Quarter Panel
DML: Advice again
DML: 100% Pure Delorean Beef
DML: Interior Courtesy light
DML: RE: To: DMC in 2010
DML: Hot Start & Tachometer Diagnostics
DML: Hood Pattern / Dent Problem
Re: DML: RC responce
Re: DML: Interior Courtesy light
Re: DML: Hood Pattern / Dent Problem
DML: I wanna see one!
DML: Re: Advice again
Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
DML: Re: Automatic lock inspection/removal proceedure question
DML: Workshop manual
Re: DML: Re: Quarter Panel
DML: Re: Hot Start & Tachometer Diagnostics
DML: Neat little gimmick...
Re: DML: Re: Advice again
DML: Help Wanted
Re: DML: Re: courtesy fuse blowing
Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:01:23 EDT
From: ABatt10347@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Antenna and Digest # 406
Fellow DMCer's,
Is it just my computer or did the digest # 406 come out scrambled? Also
anyone have any trouble putting in a new mast on their antennas? I just
bought
a new mast, (I had take the old unit out). I replaced the mast on the
original
and now it will not power up or power down. There are three wires going
to the
antenna, yellow, white and brown. I have checked the wiring as best as I
can
and do not find a diagram. My question is which is positive, negative, and
what is the third wire? Joe if you see this I need your help!
Bruce Battles
Vin# 6569
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:27:50 EDT
From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: angle drive and warm engine
This thread peaked my couriousity and I checked out my angle drive which
was
replaced by D1 not too long ago. The hex nut on the angle drive has been
replaced with a zirk fitting (the tit that sticks out of all lube points
on
most modern cars) which means that nothing has to be removed to lube the
angle drive, just squirt and move on to the next lube point. Also,
where the
wire support bracket used to be, you know, the one that holds the speedo
cable, it has been replaced by a very cool plastic clip that holds the
cable
and presses into the existing mounting hole. The whole setup is neat and
tidy
and a vast improvement over the original. Does this help? Regards, Joe
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:58:56 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: angle drive and warm engine
At 06:14 PM 8/28/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Mr. Muller,
>
>I question my experience, because the speedo drive shaft failed me TWICE
>within an eight months time period. This is the reason why I search for a
>high quality lubricating grease or even devise a better unit to help or to
>correct this inherited weakness which is so common with all the DeLoreans.
>What is the price of an angle drive???
>science yes, as my ego??? The angle drive and speedo
>drive
>shaft do rob the wheel of some energy motion?
>
>I was just trying to figure a way to improve the efficiency of the drive
>assembly.
>It is the little things that make the big things happen.
>Kayo Ong
>#05508
>Lic. 9D NY
>
reply:
Hi Kayo,
I have to say that it is very unlikely that you could actually feel any
real changes in the D's rolling resistance because of the speed angle
drive
failing. The physics involved in the D's total mass verses the rotational
torque differential are so great it's hard to imagine being able to "feel"
it. On the other hand being the all time speedo angle drive destroyer I
have noticed something else which may be what you are talking about.
First I drive several other cars which are quite a bit higher off the
road
(drivers eye level) and have a great deal less acceleration. When driving
my D at say 60 MPH I get one "Feeling of speed" and when driving another
car at the same MPH speed I get a very different "Feeling of speed", yet I
was actually going the same speed both times. When I am driving my D with
a
broken angle drive, I feel I am going much slower than I actually am
going,
in fact I have to get in the #2 lane and pace my self or risk one of those
90MPH tickets.
What you may be "Feeling" is not that actual difference in rolling
resistance but the apparent speed with out the speedo reference, which to
you senses is just as real. Let me comment at this point that once
a-pon-a-time I was a chopper pilot and made uncounted night landings at
almost zero speed. I found that what it took to be a really great pilot
was
not the collage education or breeding, it was the innate ability to judge
speed and distance, something all to few people have. Yours may be very
good and responding to the loss of the speedo reference.
These are just some thoughts!
and my 2 cents worth!
Lee
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 02:56:49 -0400
From: "R. Starling" <doctor280@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Some questions...
You are mistaken on some of your facts here. Ital Design did the styling
design on the Delorean and they were first contacted by Delorean in Nov.
74.
The owner of Ital Design and head designer, Giorgetto Giugiaro, then 36
years old, did the design work on the car. Giugiaro had many guidelines,
from Delorean that he had to make sure were included in his design. (drag
coefficient, exposed headlights, max windshield rake of 60 degrees, ground
clearance, height, width, legroom and so on and so on.) His finial design
was due to be shipped to Delorean on 07-31-75. Lotus did not come into the
picture until Nov. 78, three years after the design of the car had been
completed. The reason for the frame being used in the car was due to the
fact that the Elastic Reservoir Molding (ERM) process ran into problems.
Without the strength of ERM being used in the body of the car it required
a
steel backbone.
- -----Original Message-----
From: KKoncelik@xxxxxxx <KKoncelik@xxxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: DML: Some questions...
>John is a born again Christian or so claims to be and started that company.
>It is not much more than a company in name that he runs his household through
>for tsx purposes. We do the same thing here so its not unusual.
>The car was designed by an italian company in order to utilize the Lotus
>frame. Earlier prototypes were rrunning behind schedule John did not do
>theactual design but he did have influence on it.
>
>ken
>
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 04:21:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Tester <testersd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Top Picture...
If anyone has a digital camera at their disposal please help me!
I need an image of a Stainless Steel DeLorean from the top. A better way
to
describe it is, standing on top of a building looking down at the car.
It needs to be nicely squared, at no angles.
It will be used in a game I am editing.....
Just send it attached to an E-Mail...
Thanks to anyone that can help!!
Scott Tester testersd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Homepage http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/8240/DeLorean.html
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 08:48:13 -0500
From: "C. Longwisch" <CL1954@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Radio Control
Where do you get your energy and time? Sure I would want at least one!
Cecil Longwisch
DMC1982
VIN# 10663
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:06:29 EDT
From: ABatt10347@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Digest# 406 and antenna woes
Fellow DMCer's,
It must have been my computer. Upon reading my last post an DMLer sent me
a
complete copy of digest 406 (thanks Eric). Just goes to show how good the
list
is at helping others!!! To add some to my last post. All the fuses in the
fuse
box are ok. Antenna is wired back up to the original wires.(yellow to
yellow,
brown to brown, etc...) And yes you could hear the antenna motor working
when
it was last on the car. Now no movement or motor running sound. My
question is
there an inline fuse on this or a relay? If so where is it located? After
talking with a friend I know that one wire is power to the unit. The
other two
are to send signal up and signal down to the motor. Which is which? Thanks
again,
Bruce Battles
Vin # 6569
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 13:07:53 -0500
From: "Drew K." <Conspiracy@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: John DeLorean
Hi, I am new to the Delorean mailing list, and i was wondering what ever=
happened to John Delorean? Is he still in jail, or what?
Later,
Drew K.
(Moderators note: Please be nice in responding to this question...)
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:57 +1000
From: "Beth Kessels d'Apice" <dapice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: D's in Australia
Hi,
I would like to know if there are any D owners in Australia who may be
considering selling there car?
or does any one know wre i can get a car from out side australia and
have it sent over.
Thank you
(Please reply direct to mick_da_peach@xxxxxxxxxxx)
mick
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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 19:40:43 -0700
From: "Sean R. Manning" <mannings@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Automatic lock inspection/removal proceedure question
Hello-->
Ok, I got my console clock working and my radio remembering which station
I left it on. Pulled out most of the console and checked each segment of
the circuit all the way back to the fuse box. All that just to find out
the contacts on fuse #17 were so dirty that they were loosing about 10
volts across it. But hey, now I have intimate knowledge of that section
of
the schematic. :) Now on to the passenger's side door lock. When you try
to lock the doors from the passenger's it makes a horrible grinding sound
while its in the lock position. I've started to pull the door apart and
I'm now at the part where the shop manual says use a long Phillips screw
driver to take out the screws holding the door pull handle to it's
bracket.
Boy, they ain't kidding about a long Phillips screw driver. Looks to me
like the shaft would need to be about 14" to sneak in behind the trim
panel
and loosen those screws. So my question is, is this really how you get
the
trim panel/arm rest off or have I forgotten to take off something else
that
would give me easier access to the door handle? Also, I noticed the
installation proceedure is a bit different that the removal proceedure.
Is
it easier to get this stuff back on (I hope.) I'm sure many of you have
gone through this since Lockzilla seems to be a hot little item. Thanks.
:)
Sean Manning
VIN#1932
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:45:41 -0400
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: John DeLorean
Drew,
I'm not sure why so many people are confused about this issue. I
imagine
it has something to do with the media's lack of interest in the final
chapters of his story. John DeLorean was acquitted of "possession, with
intent to distribute narcotics" charges because the government entrapped
him. This is all explained thoroughly in John DeLorean's autobiography,
which I highly recommend reading.
To summarize the story briefly, DeLorean was approached by a "group of
investors" that were willing to invest the money in DMC that was needed to
keep operations going. The investors said however that they would only
invest the money as long as no questions were asked. DeLorean agreed to
the
terms and went forth because the British government was on the verge of
pulling their money out of the DMC project. Eventually DeLorean caught on
that the scheme involved drugs, and he tried to pull out. Upon doing so,
his
life and the lives of his family were threatened. He consulted his
lawyer on
what to do, and the lawyer said that as long as no money was exchanged
with
the dealers then he could not get into any trouble. DeLorean then
devised an
ingenious plot to move all of the holdings of DMC over to a different
corporation, and then go ahead with the deal which involved trading the
DMC
corporate shell (which had absolutely no value) for the drugs that were to
save his company. (This is the setup for the scene that takes place on
the
FBI hotel video tape that just about everyone remembers).
Because of this saga John DeLorean has suffered a great deal of
humiliation, and also as you have pointed out a misinformed impression of
him
on the public's and also any potential future investor's behalf...Not to
mention it cost him his marriage to Cristina Ferarre. He is, as far as I
know, still duking it out with some of the lawyers that were involved in
the
case. He did not however spend any time in jail other than the time
immediately following his arrest.
It's been awhile since I've read DeLorean's autobiography, so if I
mixed
up any of those details please let me know. I hope this does however
clear a
few things up.
-Josh
Drew K. wrote:
> Hi, I am new to the Delorean mailing list, and i was wondering what ever=
> happened to John Delorean? Is he still in jail, or what?
>
> Later,
> Drew K.
>
> (Moderators note: Please be nice in responding to this question...)
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 13:38:35 +-200
From: bettycat@xxxxxxxxxxx (BETTYCAT)
Subject: DML: Wiring Diagram for CRAIG Radio wanted
Hello,
I need the wiring diagram for the CRAIG radio, type II. (the one without
showing the time in the display). Who can help ???
Thanks
Dirk (VIN# 6795)
DMC-12@xxxxxxx
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 05:20:23 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RC responce
I wrote on 8/22/98:
snip<<......Before I can seriously consider such a project I need to
conduct an informal survey to determine how many DML members would be
interested in such a project......>
The DML member interest in the RC DeLorean was quite a surprise!
Many more than I thought have already responded....
I want to make it very clear that what I have in mind is more on the
level of a toy and not a sophisticated model or replica. I don't think
this project will rise to the same level as the limited edition which has
to be completed before the RC DeLoreans project can be started.
I have no idea about quantities that will be available nor the
durability. It looks right now like a living or office toy. I have order
some sample chassis and transmitters to work out what will be required to
produce an accurate but simplified ( no opening doors) toy. I have no way
of knowing how many or how long the chassis kit i intend to use will be
available. I will post from time to time where this project is in terms
of progress and do-a-ability (sic). It may be the hardware I have to buy
is flat out Junk, if that is the case then this project may never become
a reality. I have gotten enough responce to make me feel that I would be
able to sell at least a minimum chassis order required to get a
reasonable price..
I think to make things easyer for James E. our host, I will assemble
every one who has responded on a simple contact list. In the event the RC
DeLoreans go into production I will both post an announcement on the DML
and send it direct to any one on the list.
If you are seeing this reference for the first time, it's all about a
possible Radio controlled 1/20th scale DeLorean toy. If you "Might" be
interested please send me by direct e-mail " I am interested" and I will
put you on my contact list.
my e-mail address is:
lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx or
lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Please do not use the DML list to respond.
Thanks
Lee
81DMC-12
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 09:24:12 EDT
From: ROBLAMROCK@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: John DeLorean
In a message dated 8/29/98 Drew K. wrote;
<< Hi, I am new to the Delorean mailing list, and i was wondering what
ever
happened to John Delorean? Is he still in jail, or what? >>
Drew,
John was never sent to jail! He was remaded in custody for 10 days until
he
got bail, and he was found not guilty of the drugs episode.
He currently lives in Bedmister, New Jersey and is fit and healthy. I
produced and directed a one hour interview with him in New York in 1996
and
John currently sells the tape thru his company Ephesians 6:12. (See
'Zine for
details to purchase)
Robert Lamrock
Belfast
#3915
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:40:40 -0400
From: "DMCJoe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Quarter Panel
Sean,
Quarter panel replacement is relatively un-complicated, follow the
procedure in the workshop manual; see section P:02:03. Most of the time
involved is pulling the rear fascia back to access the rear attachment
fasteners P:02:19 and removal and replacement of the rear quarter glass
P:03:01.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:08:23 -0400
From: "DMCJoe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Antenna
The white wire is the 12v from the radio, trial & error will tell you
direction control for the remaining wires. The inline fuse for the power
antenna should be located in the electrical compartment behind the drivers
seat
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 98 12:11:31 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: RC responce
On 8/30/98 12:19 PM, lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx shared these fine thoughts...
>I want to make it very clear that what I have in mind is more on the
>level of a toy and not a sophisticated model or replica. I don't think
>this project will rise to the same level as the limited edition which has
>to be completed before the RC DeLoreans project can be started.
(SNIP)
I meant to mention this earlier, but...
A few years back, DeLorean One used to sell RC DeLorean bodies that could
be used with a 'standard" RC chassis. I am not sure who got custody of
the molds, etc when Ed and Stephen parted ways, but I would think that
forthsoe truly interested, a call to Ed or Stephen could make this a
reality sooner rather than later (and also give Lee the chance to work on
the scoop project sooner!)
James
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 98 12:13:38 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Quarter Panel
On 8/30/98 3:39 PM, DMCJoe shared these fine thoughts...
>Quarter panel replacement is relatively un-complicated, follow the
>procedure in the workshop manual; see section P:02:03. Most of the time
>involved is pulling the rear fascia back to access the rear attachment
>fasteners P:02:19 and removal and replacement of the rear quarter glass
>P:03:01.
Joe,
I vaguely recall reading somewhere at sometime that the inner window lip
of the quarter panel had to be treated with something before installing
the glass on a "new" (not used) quarter panel. I have a new quarter on my
garage wall and want to knwo the details if and when i decide to
install/sell it.
James
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:20:28 -0400
From: Sean Jones <shain@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Advice again
Hello,
I'm looking at a car, that has a drivers side door problem. It looks
like
it's bent at the top where the roof and window section meet. The door
does
open and shuts, but stics up a noticable distance. Could it be bent back
down, or what? Thanks.
- - Sean
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:50:24 -0400
From: "James D. Shumard" <jds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: 100% Pure Delorean Beef
Greetings--
Who's had experience with installing headers onto a D?
What works the best for those of us who want to start up their D and scare
their neighbors?
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- -
James D. Shumard
jds@xxxxxxx
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
- -
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 20:36:42 -0400
From: "Watkins Family watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Interior Courtesy light
I have just purchaed my 2nd DMC (after selling the 1st to put a down on my
home!) The front courtesy light does not come on when the door is opened
(in the correct forward position) However the rear light does function
normally. After closing the door the rear light will pause and then go
out. It's a minor thing but one that I would like to figure out.
Also, is it o.k. to use MOBIL 1 Oil Filters on our cars? I'm running
Synthetic here in Maine and the filter is comparable with the Fram unit.
The prior owner was using Purflux.
Thanks
Tom Watkins
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:59:30 EDT
From: OLopez1@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: RE: To: DMC in 2010
Someone a while back asked if there was a DeLorean in the movie "2010 The
Year
We Made Contact". I looked at the movie very carefully in the scene
where the
commecial for the Sheraton hotel was playing on the TV and there it was a
DeLorean. It was kinda hard to tell though it was a fraction of a second
and
all you can see is the door swinging up. As the woman get's out of the
car
and the door is fully open you can see the frame of the power window
which can
belong only to the DeLorean. Side note 2010 was released in 1984 and was
shot
I beleive in late 1982 - 83 while DMC still existed.
OL
#06882
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:02:02 -0500
From: Erik Romero <eromero@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Hot Start & Tachometer Diagnostics
I am renovating an 81 with 11M miles which had been in storage for 4
years. DMC of Houston has been of great help but I wanted to give
Stephen & Warren a breather from my calls for help hence this posting.
Hot starting problems have been noted as potentially fuel pump/ check
valve or accumulator problems. What is the best way to isolate which is
the problem? The vehicle suffers from poor acceleration - hesitation/
cutting out occurring during acceleration. On a frequent basis the
engine will die while driving and the tachometer will start swinging
continually 0 to the end of the scale. After coasting to a stop, the
only way to start the car is to wait for the tachometer to stop
swinging. If the vehicle is hot it takes several attempts (4-8) to start
the car. I have changed fuel filter, spark plugs/wires, rotor/cap. Also
cleaned all spade connectors at ballast, coil, fuse connectors, relay
connections. Inspected fuel pump electrical connections, hose
connections in the tank, ground wire connections to frame. Any
suggestions on what to look for next?
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:02:05 -0500
From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Hood Pattern / Dent Problem
I'm not sure if this problem has ever been posted before, but I thought
I'd
warn everyone about something I've done to my DeLorean that could have
been
avoided. I'm starting to see a weird 'X' pattern on my hood (which
happens
to identically match the supporting 'X'-shaped bracket on the backside of
the hood). I think if you try to rub too much on your hood (with the
stainless steel polishing pads or anything else), this pattern will start
to form, which is not reversable.
- -Daniel
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:49:03 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: RC responce
At 12:11 PM 8/30/98 -0000, you wrote:
>On 8/30/98 12:19 PM, lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx shared these fine thoughts...
>
>>I want to make it very clear that what I have in mind is more on the
>>level of a toy and not a sophisticated model or replica. I don't think
>>this project will rise to the same level as the limited edition which has
>>to be completed before the RC DeLoreans project can be started.
>
>(SNIP)
>
>I meant to mention this earlier, but...
>
>A few years back, DeLorean One used to sell RC DeLorean bodies that could
>be used with a 'standard" RC chassis. I am not sure who got custody of
>the molds, etc when Ed and Stephen parted ways, but I would think that
>forthsoe truly interested, a call to Ed or Stephen could make this a
>reality sooner rather than later (and also give Lee the chance to work on
>the scoop project sooner!)
>
>James
>
Thanks James!
Making the master body is a very fast and simple process once you have
carved half a dozen out of wax. I was unaware that molds existed how ever
I
think I will be safer creating my own.
The scoops are on the agenda, just waiting for me to get some time to put
a
few miles on them.
Lee
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 98 00:49:57 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Interior Courtesy light
On 8/31/98 12:35 AM, Watkins Family watbmv@xxxxxxxxxxxx shared these
fine thoughts...
>home!) The front courtesy light does not come on when the door is opened
>(in the correct forward position) However the rear light does function
>normally. After closing the door the rear light will pause and then go
>out. It's a minor thing but one that I would like to figure out.
The delay in the light going off is normal,and the first thing to check
in the front light is the bulb (does it work in ANY position? Can you
swap the front and rear fixtures and does it work then? Keep us posted...
James
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 05:51:10 -0600 (MDT)
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Hood Pattern / Dent Problem
The "X" in the hood is a situation that has occured on a number of
DeLoreans before we got smart and realized what was causing it. If, from
time to time, you feel the need to rub out or reburnish the hood, care
must
be used. I suggest that when such is necessary, you do it with the hood
raised. This allows you to use one hand to support the hood from the
rear.
It doesn't take a lot of pressure to compensate for the pressure you are
applying from the front.
Dick Ryan
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 12:37:32 +0100
From: "Mr Michael Moyse" <su3596@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: I wanna see one!
The DeLorean is a great car, but unfortunately I have never actually seen
one in the flesh. What I was basically wondering was if there were any
DeLorean owners out there living in the south west of England who would
allow me to catch a glimpse of the fabled machine itself? Any owner living
near Exeter would be great. Lastly, can anyone answer these two simple
questions :- how many of the total DeLoreans made were Euro- spec, and
what
does that weird fan like thing on the rear wind screen do? Well, thanks in
advance anyway, and thanks for the advice, James.
Later,
James Moyse
PS Any replies to screechman@xxxxxxxxxxx please. Cheers.
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:50:40 -0400
From: "DMCJoe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Advice again
Sean,
If what you describe is at the point where the door meets the tee roof you
probably have a defective door hinge. This hinge is cracked and will
eventually fail completely, when this happens the torsion bar will detach
from the hinge and you'll have 85 pounds of stainless steel door to
wrestle
with. If this is the case you will have to replace the front door hinge. I
have only seen this happen once before and the customer told me that he
first noticed the problem two years before it failed completely, therefore
I don't believe you have an emergency condition but "who knows".
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:52:22 -0500
From: "Duke" <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
I called them today and, unfortunately, they said that they don't have any
mods for the B27 or B28 Volvo motor.
Thanks,
Duke
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve <dmc@xxxxxxx>
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, August 27, 1998 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
>On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, BRUCE BENSON wrote:
>[...]
>
>I thought it worth mentioning that IPD might sell a preformance cam shaft
>for the b-28 (Volvo equivalant engine). I searched the back-issues and
>noticed that no one had mentioned them in the past. IPD sells preformance
>parts and other goodies for all volvos.
>
>I haven't ordered anything from them personally, but they do sell a few
>things that Delorean owners might find useful. You can find them at
>http://www.ipdusa.com or 800-444-6473.
>
> -Steve <dmc@xxxxxxx>
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:22:35 -0400
From: "DMCJoe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Automatic lock inspection/removal proceedure question
Sean,
Unfortunately the workshop manual has some misleading information
regarding
this procedure. Forget the Phillips head screw and do the following. Pull
off the black trim piece surrounding the inside door handle called the
escutcheon and the blank cover similar to where the mirror control is on
the other door. Look down through this opening and you'll see two
fasteners
either, 10mm bolts or Phillips head screws, that attach the pull handle to
the door. These fasteners are much easier to remove than replace, you will
also need lots of patience and a "can do" attitude to do this procedure.
As
a side note, the first time I removed a lower door panel it took me three
hours, I can now do it in 5 min., hope this adds some encouragement.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 07:33:12 PDT
From: "De Miller" <demillerkansas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Workshop manual
Hello all:
Does anyone know where to get, have access to or have for sale, a
Workshop Manual and a complete set of factory bulletins? Any site to
download them, like the Parts Manual? I know P.J. Grady has them for
sale, but I was hoping to save a little dough. Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:58:57 -0400
From: "DMCJoe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Quarter Panel
James,
You are correct, somewhere in my files I have the information on this
procedure, let me know when you need it and I'll be happy to send it to
you.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:41:45 -0500
From: "Duke" <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Hot Start & Tachometer Diagnostics
Erick,
I had a similar prob with a '81 that I was restoring and it sounds like
you
definitely have a fuel pump problem and that there may be some trash in
the
fuel lines. I'm not sure about the RPM guage spinning around but what
does
your battery guage read??? I had a similar problem on mine but it was
only
when I was starting the car and it was due to low voltage.
Hope this helps,
Duke
- -----Original Message-----
From: Erik Romero <eromero@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: DMC <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, August 31, 1998 2:40 AM
Subject: DML: Hot Start & Tachometer Diagnostics
>.
>Hot starting problems have been noted as potentially fuel pump/ check
>valve or accumulator problems. What is the best way to isolate which is
>the problem? The vehicle suffers from poor acceleration - hesitation/
>cutting out occurring during acceleration. On a frequent basis the
>engine will die while driving and the tachometer will start swinging
>continually 0 to the end of the scale. After coasting to a stop, the
>only way to start the car is to wait for the tachometer to stop
>swinging. If the vehicle is hot it takes several attempts (4-8) to start
>the car. I have changed fuel filter, spark plugs/wires, rotor/cap. Also
>cleaned all spade connectors at ballast, coil, fuse connectors, relay
>connections. Inspected fuel pump electrical connections, hose
>connections in the tank, ground wire connections to frame. Any
>suggestions on what to look for next?
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:27:05 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Neat little gimmick...
I was flipping through my JCWhitney catalog and happened across
a nifty little item that may work quite well for our cars.
It's a little spring-loaded prop that clips onto a gas strut, and when
fully
extended it will catch and hold the strut in it's opened position until
you
manually release it.
I'm not too sure of it's usefulness for the door struts, but I'm getting
one
for the hood. There are a couple circumstances that I can see it
would be handy for ( Filling up the gas on a windy day, getting something
out of the trunk when parked on an incline ).
Those of you with spoilers on your louvers may want to look into it as
well,
I heard the added weight of the spoiler sometimes causes the louvers
to sag/close.
It may work well for car shows to keep the doors fully open too....
Just a handy little thing for a car with so many struts....
If ya don't have a JCW catalog, they're free! go to www.jcwhitneyusa.com
- -Dave
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:43:31 -0400
From: Sean Jones <shain@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Advice again
Hello,
>From what the guys says the door is bent, although front what i've see,
it
takes alot to do it. The guy thinks he did it to collect insurance (other
parts are damaged serverly). Thanks, it's nice that you help everyone.
Sean
DMCJoe wrote:
> Sean,
> If what you describe is at the point where the door meets the tee roof you
> probably have a defective door hinge. This hinge is cracked and will
> eventually fail completely, when this happens the torsion bar will detach
> from the hinge and you'll have 85 pounds of stainless steel door to
> wrestle
> with. If this is the case you will have to replace the front door hinge. I
> have only seen this happen once before and the customer told me that he
> first noticed the problem two years before it failed completely, therefore
> I don't believe you have an emergency condition but "who knows".
> Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:45:20 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Help Wanted
Help Wanted
note: James, I have not been on your list from the beginning, but I have
a feeling this is the first help wanted ever to appear on the DML
directly related to The DeLorean.
Help Wanted - August 24, 98
I need help in writing the assembly documents for the Limited edition
Delorean model Kits.
I need two people for this job. The payment is one special un-numbered
24KGold Limited edition Kit on release of the limited edition. The kit
will contain at least $100.00 in pure 24K gold leaf for use in the kit,
but the gold may be disposed of in any way the recipient wishes, there is
a limitation however, the kit may not be sold to a second party.
successful candidates
will be required to sign an NDA and work for hire copyright agreement.
The two jobs are as follows:
1. <underline>Writer and Internet research person.</underline> - job
one
Hours: independent - must meet copy dead lines.
<underline>Scope of Job:
</underline> To write final draft text for assemble instructions. No art
work or graphics involved Est: time required 30-40 Hrs. (total)
<underline>Qualifications:
</underline> Must have strong writing and English, grammar/spelling
skills. Have
experience in doing Internet research and cross referencing. Must have a
good
understanding of DeLorean, preference will be given to a DeLorean owner.
Must have or use Microsoft Word 6 or above and Internet access.
<underline>Submission required.</underline> Prefer simple writing skill
history any thing you feel will demonstrate
your writing skills. (no employment application style submission is
required and your
vocation need not reflect writing experience.)
2. <underline>Scale Auto modeling research person</underline> (Internet)
- - Job two
Hours: independent - must meet copy dead lines.
<underline>Scope of job:
</underline> To research on the Internet Plastic car modeling references
and work with me on
assembly instruction, which will include specific directions, material
descriptions and
various related modeling techniques. . No art work or graphics
involved
Est: time required 30-40 Hrs. (total)
<underline>Qualifications:</underline>
Must have demonstrable plastic model care assembly skills, modeling
materials and
tool usage experience. Must have Microsoft Word 6 or above and Internet
access.
<underline>Submission required: </underline>.jpg or .bmp images of past
plastic auto assembly (Examples of kit assembly preferred) work + VIN
The two people selected for this work will receive appropriate
publication recognition
If you would like to apply please use direct e-mail to:
lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Thank you
Lee
81DMC-12
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:47:45 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: courtesy fuse blowing
The engine compartment light is a common weak spot. I think the threads
on problems related to the engine compartment light are uncommon because
most of us have just disconnected them!
The unit is designed in such a way where the heat from the lamp melts a
small rubber insulator. When the insulator is melted away, it creates a
dead short.
According to Rob Grady, the light can be repaired by drilling out the
rivet, and replacing the rubber grommet. (He told me this years ago.. I
never actually tried it myself) I am guessing if you replace it with
some of other non-conductive material that will not melt, it will last
forever.
Marc.
Phillip124@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> I had the same problem and it would even blow 30Amp fuses. The worse
> thing
> about blowing fuses was when the engine compartment light was on. When
> the
> doors are open it blows fuses pretty fast, after 5 minutes or so.
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:58:44 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Single Turbo Performance Upgrade
We really need a after market "Legend" kit!!!
But, anyway... Has anyone tried changing the heads? or fuel injection
system?
http://www.vectorbd.com/users/jpl/v6.html has a few variants that are
listed with 24 Valve heads... (Peugeot 605... Anyone in Europe know
anything about these cars?) Will these heads fit our motors?! I see
there is a "Venturi" listed as putting out 450Hp with "Bi Turbo". I'd
like a 450Hp De Lorean!! :)
Another note about http://www.vectorbd.com/users/jpl/v6.html , the De
Lorean is one of the LOWEST Horse Power cars in the list!
Anyone check to see if there are any Hi-Po after market stuff for the
Eagle Premier? It is listed as 150HP, but because it is a more modern
vehicle, there may be performance parts available for it.
Marc
raddad@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Re the following:
> >May I offer an alternative that I keep hearing about. A machine shop can
> >remove both of the heads, modify the cams, enlarge the valves and probably
> >a few more items. All of this will set you back a few thousand and
> >increase the horse power from 130 to about 200 without the stress that
> >turbos have been known to add.
> -------------------------------------------------
> I have heard some hp figures tossed around rather loosely, but I know of
> no
> one who has done this sort of tweaking and gained 70 PROVEN HP. If anyone
> has, I would really like to see an article on what was done.
>
> Most of the turbo's are not producing 200 HP. If you hold the boost to
> less than 7 Lbs., the engine appears to not suffer any adverse reactions.
> The ACTUAL HP gain in such circunstances will produce somewhat less than
> 200 HP.
>
> Unless one is going for major HP gains, the engine will suffer more from
> how one drives and maintains the car than from the HP gain.
>
> My $.02
>
> Dick Ryan
>
> ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------
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