I am all for supporting Delorean owners. What I tried to point out in my post is that occasionally an owner will come to a club event driving an obviously unsafe and/or unreliable car. Sometimes through ignorance but *sometimes* for the "pity" other more capable owners would have. I prefer to say empathy rather than pity. In any case I personally have seen where some cars are so bad and require so much work that the car has to be left behind. In fairness to all of the others who just want a look-over it is impossible to devote a lot of time to any one car at a club event. That is my complaint. As a practical matter we generally try to do what we can. In one case an owner blew his radiator apart. He knew it was leaking but went on a long trip anyway. Well, we had to leave him behind in Provincetown, RI. Without a replacement radiator there was nothing we could do for him. Another time "Evil Dan" spent the night replacing a clutch slave cylinder almost missing dinner. When I held an event one owner's car died about 1 mile from the shop in NJ. I went after him and jumpered his RPM rely to get him in. Of course when you hold an event you feel some responsabilty to the people who come to make sure they have a good time and get home. There is a limit to what can be expected though. Owners must do their part and prepare their car as best they can BEFORE coming to ANY event. Hell, some don't even check their tire pressures!!!!!!!! I started checking the tire pressures of every car that would come to the events I ran. Less than 10% of the cars I checked had all 4 tires CLOSE to the correct pressures! IMHO when any group or club holds an event it should be MANDATORY that each car have a basic safety check including tire pressures and lights. It is not easy following a car on a rally when it's brake lights don't work! And we all know how reliable the taillight boards are! David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "content22207" <brobertson@...> wrote: > > I was CONTRASTING owner support with paid work like Joe's. > > Which of course is a totally different kettle of fish than scheduled > work at shops such as PJ Grady, Don Steger, etc. Note that even Rob > can't seem to resist an open engine cover at club events. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:dmcnews-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:dmcnews-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/