The green "O" rings are good for R-12 or -134. The real problem is the dessicant and the oil. If they are not changed when the -134 is put in eventually it will cause problems. The system should be flushed out and ALL of the "O" rings changed. No reputable shop will just squirt Freon into a system anymore. If the system needs Freon then it HAS a leak. Freon is not consumed, it is recirculated like anti-freeze. The proper procedure is to remove the freon, pressurize the system with nitrogen and leak-test. After finding the leak and repairing then the system is evacuated to a hard vacuum for at least 1/2 hour, the longer the better and then recharged with a measured amount of refrigerent and a leak marker. Finally the system is performance tested. A really sharp shop will also check the oil for PH. In most cases though they just drain and replace it. If you can keep the system filled with R-12 or one of the new drop-in replacements you are probably better off. The A/C in the Delorean was not engineered for -134. To use it the system will run higher pressures and the coils are not sized for it so the performance will be 20% less then R-12. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Don Ekhoff <ekhoff@xxxx> wrote: > David< > > Related question: I am tryng to take good care of several DeLoreans. > On the one driven most, I experienced poor AC performance while on a > road trip in N. Idaho this time last year. I stopped at a remote shop > that charged the system for a very nominal fee. My thought at the time > was that the total bill was probably less than the cost of the R-12 > anywhere else in the U.S.. Now a year later I was concidering using a > replacement kit, doing the proper oil change/pump down and replacement > with R-134 as I have seen reports of people happy with the results. Now