Martin, You make an excellent point. This engine has tremendous potential and sucessive variants have certainly proved this to be true. If there was someone providing a service sourcing and supporting European based engine upgrades, I would be first in line. My perspective is that I already have the odd-fire DMV motor and see substancial gains without breaking the bank or my drive train. I don't think 130 HP is enough. I suppose the question is, how much more can I get for how much spent? Has anyone else attempted a ported, polished (induction as well as exhaust), turbocharged (single or twin), intercooled, water injected DMC/PRV yet? Don E. #6543 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Gutkowski" <webmaster@xxxx> To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [DML] Performance mods > Pete Berveiler wrote: > > >I believe the 350-400 HP range is attainable with > >turbocharging or supercharging, but not with the DMCH > >mods. It will require serious high-dollar performance > >mods (custom intake manifolds, exhaust capable of > >moving that much air, new concave pistons, larger air > >inlet system, full distributorless EMS and new more > >powerful ignition system, High-flow EFI system, and > >different catalytic converters to be street legal) > >that you can drop nitrous on as well to go above > >400HP. > > > > > It's really funny how people keep on writing things like this - not to > have a dig at what Peter's written - he's on the money. What it comes > down to is the odd-fire crank in the DeLorean engine is simply not > suitable for turbocharging, and that is only at the top of a very long > list of problems with turbocharging this engine. > > Why else would the Renault 25 Turbo have such a massively re-engineered > engine? The Renault Alpine A610 produces in excess of 400hp reliably > from a 2.5l PRV-6 that mates to the exact same gearbox as the DeLorean. > The engine is an enhanced and intercooled version of that in the R25 > Turbo, which can be found in scrapyards all over europe. > > Why do people keep trying to reinvent the wheel with an enhanced > original DMC PRV when so many are available just begging to be dropped > in, have an exhaust made to fit, and bingo-splingo, a 400hp capable PRV > in the back of your D? > > The DMCH engine is about as good as you'll get without spending serious > money on rebuilding and reengineering a stock engine. > > Oh, and the 3.0l PRV used in cars like the Renault Espace and Citroen > Xantia up until only a few short years ago can be tuned (at some > expense) to 300-350hp. It will bolt right in. > > Martin > #1458 > #4426 > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderators@xxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >