I found it to be too much of a pain to replace those. This is what I did instead: http://www.abato.net/web/dmcspeak/index.htm -----Original Message----- From: Soma576@xxxx [mailto:Soma576@xxxx] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:00 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] biggest speaker possible in rear speaker holes List, i am interested in getting rid of those terrible 4x10's and putting something half-decent back there. what is the biggest possible speaker that will fit in the hole w/o modifying the trim that goes over it? i don't mind making a plate or brackets. 4" round? 5.25"? 5x7? 6x9? 6" round? Soma576@xxxx