Ken and Group, The good news is that I talked to Sascha yesterday for about an hour. He is now in L.A. and consulting with Don, Ed and the original owner of the car a former DMC employee who now lives in the L.A. area, assessing the validity and the historic value if any, of his EBay purchase Vin# BD000020 made from his home in Boston on the word of the seller and pictures provided. This car is believed to be one of what was about 30 cars produced by either Lotus and/or DMC and shipped to US to be used in the emission and track tests for the US government, of which he thinks in talking to the former owner and DMC employee only 1 other car of this kind to his knowledge still exists after most of the others were disassembled(scavendged) for parts in the process of getting the car passed. This took place before the so called Black cars where built at the factory to train workers on the procedures of assembling the cars, hence the name PILOT cars. The car is in good running condition, with a few upgrades and a little work and money to tighten up the cooling and fuel systems this car is going to keep on going for a long time as it was cared for mechanically pretty well by the former owner and is believed to have low miles(less than 15,000 as I remember). The dilemma as I see it is going to be how to proceed to restore a car inside and out that was never intended to be sold to the public and in my opinion, has some historical significance. And this posses the problem that in some places the car has parts that are not conventional DMC parts, for example the plastic expansion bottle that has cracks in it that has to be replaced, which Steven from DMC Houston thought maybe off a Ford Citron, do you replace it with a new aluminum one or call Ford or the U.K. DMC club to see if they can locate an original part, all to keep it historically correct while using it as a daily driver. Understand this car came to the original owner with no windows or passenger seat and I think Sascha said that even the doors were replaced later, as the original owner decided to fix the car up to drive legally. So Sascha doesn't know what is stock and what was added by the former owner in his endeavor to get the car driveable. Also the car was painted black, not because it was damaged but the owner got tired of the blotchy look of the stainless, he said. Sascha's plan was to leave his job and to drive his car around the country from Pennsylvania 3000 miles to Portland for the DOA driving tour which he did, with just a water pump going out in Chicago I might add, where he met all the vendors. There I met him and invited him to stay at my house as he went though the San Francisco bay area to L.A. The bad news unfortunately is he has been here and is off on the rest of his adventure(oh to be young again). Then he was to go to L.A. to check out the validity of his purchase. After staying with relatives and friends in L.A. and San Diego move on to Colorado before winter then proceed to DMC Houston, the midwest, the east coast, Rob at P.J. Grady than home. Although in talking to him it sounds like he may be staying around L.A. at his uncles house and get a job for the winter then perhaps pickup his journey sometime in the future. That's about all I know to the best of my recollection, you can all see the pictures posted on the DML website photo section and make your own opinion. Gary V. Vin# 5480 '81 5 speed "Montgomery, Ken" wrote: > Does the car run? What would we need to do to get it to one of our > meets so > we could all see it? > > Ken >