David T, > 2) Using a sonic device to detect supercooled droplets in the suction > line. I never knew that such a device existed; though, I have heard of a similar device that detects vapor bubbles. Can you recommend a source for learning more about the sonic devices? > 3) Filling to the sight glass (If a sight glass is even on the > system). Not a chance in the DeLorean even if you installed an aftermarket sight glass. In accumulator/orifice tube systems, there will always be bubbles in the liquid line. > 4) The least precise and most widely used method, filling till the > compressor runs or at least to a suction pressure corresponding to > about 34 degrees F for the refrigerent being used. This sounds like my best bet considering my resources at hand. I started this thread because I'm installing a variable orifice valve (VOV) in place of the OEM fixed orifice tube. The fixed tube is a crude compromise between what it needs to be at idle vs. highway speeds. By upgrading to a VOV, the orifice automatically adjusts to the optimum size for the pressure of the refrigerant. This translates to cooler evaporator temperatures at idle, less compressor cycling, longer compressor life and better fuel economy. I have done quite a bit of reading on it, and there apparently are no disadvantages to using a VOV in either an R-12 or R-134a system. But of course I'm only reading the manufacture's hype. My strategy is to get the system working with the VOV with an accurately measured refrigerant charge. Then closely monitor the system's pressures & temperatures and use that as a benchmark for future diagnostics. Walt