Re: [DML] New DeLorean Parts and vendors (still long)

[Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxx>]

dmcnorway wrote:

> My point is still, when you buy a DeLorean specific part (lets say an 
> ashtray) why not, in the same order, buy other parts (for instance a 
> Bosch fuel pump) you need.
A fuel pump is heavy and valuable..... the tax is a killer and the 
shipping is expensive.

> Also, you can 
> always put a lower value on the package so that no import tax will 
> arise.
YOU can? It's up to the sender to declare the value and most of the 
large vendors won't reduce the declared value. I got stung for £120 in 
tax on a $600 order from PJ Grady.

> Also - the DOC UK has found many parts that are IDENTICAL to what the 
> DeLorean uses. This list should be published, at least to the members of the DOC 
> UK who has paid membership dues
There was a large cross-reference list printed in the club mag a couple 
of issues ago. The problem, as I see it, is simply the people who have 
discovered cross-refs passing the info on. Paul Salsbury is always quick 
to pass all info on on the list. I have not needed many parts - engine 
and transmission parts just come from Renault or Volvo through either 
the Diesel Centre or Braydon Motor Company respectively - both of whom 
are on my website. Specifics like the track rod ends were from a comment 
by Chris Parnham on the DOC list. Plus if you get stuck, a phone call to 
Dave Howarth or Mark Bourne (or Jason Monk, or Chris Parnham, or Stuart 
Pennington or ......) usually gets you the answer you're after. It's 
very difficult to compile a list of parts per-se, and to get to the "nub 
of the matter", creating a list of available parts, by implication, says 
that nothing else is available. The more people like Paul, Rich and 
myself restore cars, the more parts are re-appearing.

As we're on the subject, the Diesel Centre found a supplier of the 90A 
Bosch alternator used on the Volvo 260. I will be investing in one for 
the purposes of research in the near future (does it fit the DeLorean 
engine).

> - you mention the part from a Triumph 
> Herald, very interesting, but what about the rest of the identical 
> parts)
What do you need? Until someone needs something, we can't exactly just 
hand over a car and say "give us a cross reference for all these". Off 
the top of my head, we can get

Brake pads
Brake discs
Brake flexi-hoses (slightly different lengths than OEM)
track rod ends
fuel pump
water pump (volvo-style)
injectors
spark plugs
auto tranny filter
all gaskets
gearbox parts
CV boots
washer bottle pump
brake calipers
ignition barrel
rear view mirror (any scrapyard will have loads that are identical to 
the OEM one)
windscreen wipers
door seals
brake master cylinder
clutch system

...until someone needs something , we don't know what we can get. The 
above list is just things I know we or others in the club have sourced. 
Interesingly, once you factor the cost of shipping and tax, most of 
those above become prohibitive to send to the US.

> I think its important to show the difference between IDENTICAL and 
> cross-reference/will maybe work part.
There's n awful lot in the list above which are not 100% identical to 
the OEM - the fuel pump for example is an exact match, but it's black. 
The door seals are exactly the same apart from an extra "ridge" which is 
invisible when on the car, the washer bottle pump has the connector on 
the side instead of the end. The ignition barrel has a different plug 
but the same pins, the CV boots are a perfect fit but are better made 
and a slightly different shape. These are just examples. Often the 
vendors are selling the "different" parts - often the differences are 
just caused by changes in the manufacturing process over the years.

This may be my last post before Memphis - (huge sigh of relief from 
everyone :-)

I'm going to Halfords at lunchtime to buy a few bits'n'pieces. I will be 
bringing a couple of bottles each of Black Trim Wax (perfect for Louvers 
and bumpers), some Auto Glym interior care products, some rear view 
mirror sticky pads, and some tyre dressing. I also have sitting next to 
me right now (just arrived) a brand new black leather seat cover made by 
the original company responsible for trimming the DeLorean. This is NOT 
for sale, but watch this space....

Martin
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