Folks: Again, I would like to share my experiences. IMO... Mr. John Z. DeLorean engineering abilities are great. Look at the 60s Pontiac's GTO and the other improvements he made for the different GM lines, when he was there. The DMC-12 is a well engineered and laid out car in the 1980s. For all it problems that is does have, it does perform well from the new and small company in the 80s. Remember, it was only in the business of three years. I am sure if the company were to be in operation for an additional three years, they would have upgraded and corrected many of their problems and weakness, which haunts it. Besides, how many US, European or Asian cars in the 1980s are still on the road and in demand like the DMC-12 today for its price range? What other vehicle in the 1980s was so radical and had so many frills like the DMC-12. I can't remember any US made car that did for the money. I do remember the US car market was getting their pants kick out of by the Japanese cars. The DMC-12 in Japan is revered by car enthusiasts and very sought after. All cars have problems or "quirks." Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, RR and Bentley, BMW, NSX, Lotus, and etc for example all have their quirks and problems and yet they are STILL sought out and own by various car enthusiasts and collectors. No matter how much work and money one invest into them, they are plague with problems just like the DMC-12 and maybe more. It is matter of living and dealing with them. Do remember, when the DMC-12 came out in 1981, it was a decent car and it did compete and held it own against many other sports cars in its class comfortably, so, why are some of you people trying to compete or compare a 1981, a twenty-year-old car to a current one? It is like buying a house. A twenty year old home most likely won't compete or compare with a present built home. Time and technology changes things ... so, enjoy the homes and the cars for its worth and keep up with their maintenance in both the same way. I have owned or co-owned many cars -- exotics as well as luxury and the lot. I like the DeLorean for all it problems ... and all of them I have corrected. All it takes is time, money and the desires to keep up with it. I do find the original DMC-12 underpowered, other then that is okay in all respect. I do find it very easy to drive long hours without getting "driving fatigue." I driven many exotics and luxuries and some cars I can't drive for more then four hours and I must stop to take a break and to stretch my body. The DeLorean is one vehicle I can drive for twenty hours without getting severe driving fatigue. Last weekend, as part of my work, I have driven on Friday from NYC to Columbus, Georgia, a 970 plus miles, sixteen-hour trip one way and the return trip on Sunday. A 2,000 miles round trip including driving around town. In the last six years of ownership of my DeLorean, I have made this trip four times, beside other trips several times a year to Barrie, Canada; Detroit, Michigan, Maine, Washington, DC, Boston, Virginia Area, Alabama and etc. I can come out of the DeLorean and BE ready to work even after a 20 hours of driving.... I can't say that for many other exotics and luxury cars that I have driven ... they are good for the ego, while adding stress and tiring my body and mind. When I first brought my DeLorean it had 10,000 miles. In six-year time I have driven my DeLorean 75,000 miles, the odometer now reads 86,000 miles. My DeLorean have been very reliable. In the second year I had it, it had failed me once.... It had a bad left hub and it did let go on FDR East River Drive Highway, Manhattan, NYC. This hub was already questionable when it was serviced a week earlier for I had the left rear bearing changed at that time. Rob had brought it to my attention that I "should" replace the hub ... he did warned me and the option was mine to make.... I told him the "cheaper" way. I told them to used the back the original hub, the questionable part... It was my bad decision on my part. The sad thing is I knew better not to! Anyway, it cost me. MORE in towing ($50.00 for the hook up and $7.00 per mile for the next 60 miles), a new hug, a new rear bearing (again) plus labor (again) and aggravation. Lucky at that time there were no other damage to the DeLorean, to me or my young daughter who was riding at that time. One good thing during that incident, that a fellow tenant at my garage where I park, saw me and offer me favor to drive my daughter home, while I had a tow truck take my DeLorean to PJ Grady that Sunday night at 9 PM. Rob's workers, Pat opened up the shop to accommodate my DeLorean at 12 AM Monday morning when the tow truck and I got there. Pat is a friend in need and a friend in deed. Thank you Pat! I did had my DeLorean towed a second time a year later. I had miscalculate and ran into the sidewalk corner's curb, instead of the ramp's driveway... Anyway, that incident made the early decision to change to the heavy-duty brass radiator as the new replacement, which I was going to do -- Just the extra cost in the towing, on Labor Day. Again, Pat opened up shop at 1 AM. That was getting to be a habit in the middle of the night. Before my DeLorean, I had fancy and driven daily an older Bentley for 24 years -- also constantly maintained. The fuel economy, the fun and easy to drive the DeLorean had retired the Bentley as my daily car, beside the RRs and Bentleys are not well received by people at the present. The DeLorean is a very cheap and easy car to maintain and through the six years of ownership, I had all the upgrades and other goodies that are available from the vendors installed onto #5508. I am just short of installing a turbo system (which requires extra maintenance), or the Northstar engine at a $20,000 price tag (waiting for its reliability and performance specs report and is it worth the bang for the bucks?) or the engine from James Espey's DMC company (still waiting for the performance specs to be posted). Anyway, I have always kept up maintenance with my DeLorean as well as my other cars. Maintenance is a must and an "X" amount of money must be set aside annually for all cars as an investment. This practice will eliminate troubles that can arise due to neglect. Again, the DeLorean it has its quirks ... but I love it and it is fun. Six years ago, my feeling for the DeLorean was different. I thought it was just another car and let me drive it the same as any other car. I grew into the DeLorean and my opinion is different now. I am ready to drive my DeLorean anywhere, anytime as long as time permits. It makes my trips and work fun, comfortable with a majestic relaxed feeling and I don't need to be starchy ... and with no ego, no overtures, no hated ugly stares from on lookers which are commonly associate with the exotics and expensive motorcars, especially when you get out of these cars. BTW, my next trip, if is it is still scheduled tomorrow Friday is to New Hampshire..... And my DeLorean #5508 and I are ready to go...... so, see you on the road "on the go" and not from the side of it. Kayo Ong #5508 Lic 9 NY [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]