In regards to the torsion bars, these will be very difficult to re-create. If I understand the technology and history correctly, Grumman Aerospace made these in a fashion similar to the F-16 canopy torsion springs. Because of the enormous stresses on our bars (nearly a 90 degree twist in a part only a couple of feet long) the bars were cryogenically tempered in liquid helium at about 7 degrees Kelvin. That's very cold, by the way. This is much different than the typical spring tempering at high temperatures, with a quench in oil or air. Bottom line - I don't think that the local spring house is going to want to attempt these. What to do? I don't know at this point. Does anybody on the list have a different perspective on my understanding? I would almost think that a call to Northrop-Grumman might at least be interesting. Perhaps I can dredge up a contact. Toby Peterson VIN 2248 Winged1 --- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Ed Garbade" <edgarbade@xxxx> wrote: > Anyone seriously looked into what it would take to run a fibrication > production of them? Houston...?