Hello, gang! Farrar here, future DeLorean owner. (I think.) I enjoyed reading the responses to my original post and I can't thank you enough. An update on my situation: The VIN for the car I am thinking of buying is SCEDT26T4BD000980. The guy has photographs posted at the following URL: http://pike.thedial.com/~pat/Jason/new.htm The first 10 photographs are for a 5-speed which he is selling, and the rest are the automatic I'm thinking of getting. If any of you guys/gals have the time to browse through the (somewhat fuzzy) photos and let me know if $9,000 is good for this, please feel free! You may also e-mail me privately if you wish not to clog up the list. Completely different topic: I am reading the archives in another browser, and in the digest dated 02Jul1996 somebody says something about the Eagle Premier using "a 3.0L version of the DeLorean engine." Interestingly enough, this is the same engine that was in the 1992 Dodge Monaco. Here's how it works. "When Chrysler bought AMC, it agreed to sell a certain number of Renaults. (Iaccoca also reportedly promised not to end the AMC name, which he did shortly after the sale went through. Instead of AMC, he chose the name Eagle for the division, after the 4,000 pound 4WD-capable, bulging-tired, oddly-styled AMC which can still be found in snowy and hilly areas. The Eagle's sister, the AMC Concord, eventually found a namesake in a Chrysler LH car, for reasons unknown to outsiders). The need to sell Renaults led to the AMC/Renault designed four-door, five-passenger FWD Eagle Premier. It was a pleasingly designed cross between a sleek European road car and a spacious American sedan. Built in Bramalea (Ontario), it was the roomiest car in its class and quite aerodynamic. Its 3 liter MPI V-6 (no relationship to the MMC 3.0) and four-speed automatic were reportedly quite nice to drive, with 150 hp @ 5,000 rpm and 171 lb-ft of torque at 3,600 rpm. (Compression ratio 9.3:1, 3.66 x 2.87 bore and stroke). - Gaston Chouinard noted that the engine was a PRV (Peugeot, Renault, Volvo joint venture), 90 degreeV-6, 182 cu.in. Eventually, due to slow sales of the Premier, Chrysler added a Dodge version, the Monaco. This also languished, however, along with everything else but minivans on Chrysler lots." - from allpar.com There are photographs of this engine at this site: http://www.geocities.com/eagle_premier/layout.htm Why did I dig all of this up? Simple -- I saw a little information on the 1992 Dodge Monaco, which led me to believe had the same engine as my current Plymouth Duster. Then I found out that the Premier had the same engine as the Monaco, and I thought to have the same engine in MY cheap little Plymouth was impossible! Well, until I found a photograph of the engine (see above) I had no idea whether or not it was true. Sure enough, it's a different engine. (As this guy stated with "no relation to the MMC 3.0".) What does this mean to you? Simple. Anyone who wants to "upgrade" their 2.8 to a 3.0 can look at the photographs on the Eagle Premier link and see that it looks like it would be a fairly straightforward job and a nice fit. Somebody mentioned this in 1996 as I mentioned. Now, I imagine you could get an old Premier cheap, but you can get an old (91-92) Monaco ever cheaper!!! (Although they may be harder to find.) Why do I know all this stuff? Besides being a DeLorean nut, I'm a Chrysler fan. :P And this is what single guys do. *chuckle* ON ANOTHER COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TOPIC: Does anybody know if the "FanZilla" and other Zilla stuff I have been reading about in three year old digests is/are still available? I have done a websearch and also gone to PJGrady's website and found nothing. Okay, on with our lives. Regards, Farrar Hudkins New Orleans, Louisiana