We have to bring this back up once in a while. Thanks for reading. TRIM QUOTES---- PLEASE, when replying to postings on the list, take the time to edit down the part you are replying to. Just leave enough so that we can tell what you are replying to, not the entire prior two or three messages. It only takes a second, and makes a huge difference in the archives and in general readability of the list, not to mention people's download time. CHECK SUBJECT LINE--- When replying to a digest, change the subject line to "re: thesubject". Having the subject be an entire digest is confusing and probably causes people to skip reading your post. Also, please pay attention, it is normal for the subject of a thread to migrate, (like the recent "oil filter" to "storage" thread). As you reply to these, please change the topic to what you are talking about. Dave Swingle Moderator of Moderators, DML