[DML] Re: wiring

[Peter Lucas <lucas@xxxx>]

You don't say whether the brown wire from the relay is thick or thin. 
I assume it is thick.

Under this assumption, very likely the two thin red wires are the 
coil (control) inputs to the relay, and the brown and thick-red are 
the relay contacts (i.e., they are being switched). They are most 
likely switching the wire that normally goes from the key to the 
starter relay (or some other crucial engine-related circuit), 
although there are many ways that this could be wired--doesn't really 
matter.

If all of this is correct, all you have to do is cut the two thick 
wires (brown and red), connect them to each other with a crimp 
connector, and tear the rest of the mess out. You may want to poke 
around with a voltmeter before you change anything, just in case my 
assumptions are wrong.

Just removing the red wire from the alarm may or may not work. Some 
alarms use a normally-closed relay setup (in which case removing the 
wire would work fine), others use normally-open (in which case 
removing it will disable the vehicle). You really don't want to 
leave the relay in the circuit, though, so get rid of it.

--pete lucas
VIN 6703


At 6:37 PM -0800 11/22/99, Lynn Metz wrote:
> I have a problem with the starting system and an alarm system. 
> When I bought my car it already had an alarm installed, but I do not 
> have the remotes. I want to remove it now, but I am not sure about 
> removing the starter disable. I have consulted the wiring diagrams 
> in the manual but the colors do not correspond.
>
> The wiring diagram shows a relay with one brown, one white with 
> yellow tracer, and (2) white with red tracer. However, my car has: 
> one brown, one thick red, and (2) thin red wires.
>
> I assume the brown is correct and is the constant power. I 
> assume the thick red is to the starter (it goes into a black box 
> right next to the fuse block). I know that one thin red goes to the 
> alarm. The other thin red goes into the harness heading for the 
> front of the car. Can someone shed some light on what these wires 
> are and how to remove the alarm without killing the system.
>
> My car is an 83. Is the ignition wire the thin red wire going 
> into the Harness? What happens if I remove the wire going to the 
> alarm module?
>
> By the way, it appears that brown and thin red wire on on one 
> post, and that the thick red wire and thin red alarm wire are on 
> another post. (it does not appear to be a normal looking relay as I 
> have seen them - it only has two steal posts).
>
> Help please!!!!
> Thanx,
> Brian 16584
>
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