Joe, > I'm all for better modifications to the Delorean, but when people > start basically ripping it apart to make it something it isn't. > Basically a chevrolet engine, porsche tranny, then specialized > plumbing & electricals to make it work, plus all the custom > fabrications needed to make it all work, then it isn't really a > Delorean anymore. > > Makes for a fun maintenance & upkeep for anyone who inherits or buys > a vehicle like this. > > Rich, the scale of vehicles you just mentioned, best scenario to > worst, sounds about right for modded cars. I'm not just for > Deloreans that have been stripped of the systems that make them a > Delorean. Again, I must disagree. The systems that make a DeLorean aren't the goodies under the hood. It's the recognizable stuff. The body, the doors, the interior, etc. For example... Replace everything under the body, drive it anywhere and people will still say, "Oh look, a DeLorean!" If it's not really a DeLorean anymore, how come everyone who sees it still recognizes it as such? This "not a DeLorean" idea is a very tiny minority. The DMV still says it's a DeLorean, as does your insurance company and everyone you would ever meet on the street. I'd say that makes it a DeLorean. > Just imagine if your car had a chevy vortec engine, a custom > transmission, it's own fuel delivery & plumbing setup, how useful > would the DML have been then? Plenty useful. I could still ask questions relating to the brakes, the body, interior, doors, seals, glass, most heating & A/C components, the mode switch, the louvers, audio systems, etc. Need I go on? If I've got the ability to drop in a custom engine, tranny, etc, do you think I need the DML's help in that area? I ask questions about the PRV because I'm unfamilar with it. If I tore it out and dropped in a Chevy engine, I wouldn't have to ask questions about that part of the car. If I paid someone to do this work for me, then I'd go to him for support. Really, I don't see this as being an issue unless you bought the car that way and have no idea how the swap was done. > That is my main beef when people > mainly cutomize or butcher just for a minimal speed gain. It is a > touring car, and for people that realize that, then this is the car > for them, for some it isn't. Woah - minimal speed gain? A proper engine swap can take this car to 60mph in the 3 second range. I've seen Fieros that run the quarter mile in under 9 seconds, and the same could easily be done to a DeLorean. I wouldn't call being able to smoke any car on the road, Lamborghinis and Ferraris included, a "minimal speed gain". Even a regular old V8 would drop your 0-60 times down to 5 seconds. Still not "minimal". > repairs & fixes are great. Maybe I gave the wrong impression when I > made the first post, the main point was for people not to destroy > the car just for a faster 0-60 time, or a faster street drag. To you the car is destroyed. To me, it's reborn. A stock DeLorean is slow as molasses. My SUV has better acceleration. Building a custom DeLorean with the power to suit it's looks is not destruction, it's an improvement. But then, I don't see my car as an investment. It's a toy. Something fun to drive around in - so fun, in fact, that it's my daily driver. If it was worth $0 today I wouldn't care, because I don't intend to sell it. I keep it parked in the garage and I baby it, but only for the purpose of it's lasting for many years to come - not to keep it's value high. If it were faster, it would just be that much more fun to me. Besides - if someone swaps out his PRV, that's good for the rest of you. He won't be needing any of the PRV's parts, leaving more for everyone else, and a few people might get a great deal on a used engine, transmission, or other engine component. -Ryan To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/