I liked the DAU personally. It was a one coat system and did a great job. The base coat clear coat on a bumper is a lot of work compared to that. Paint is where it is at because of emmissions control for airborn pollutants. The DAU was not as full of solids. It is now banned. The new paints have a lot of solids thus they dont gloss and you need a clearcoat. Clearcoat glosses so you need a gloss inhibitor or sand to gloss level. I painted at least 25 facias in the last year and these paints do cover a bit better because they do go on thicker but for me I did like some of the older acrylics and in particular the DAU series. The K36 primers can cover scratches and pits up to 80 grit. Takes 4 coats but it does it and with no bondo blead thru so that is an improvment. The DBU is the best of the two part systems from PPG although I have used and do like the Akkso Reliant (sp). The PPG Delstar Clear is still the best in my opinion although it does not work well with some 2 part systems. It has a great wetting action that leaves a good gloss. I hate DBC because you cannot go and touch it back up. It is a solvent base and like laquer will disolve if you hit it to repair after about 4 hours. It has to cure before you can fix it and that can take a day or so. It does however give a nice finish and dries more like laquer as far as speed but there are too many negatives if the painting conditions are not perfect. Colors have improved and are closer to stainless but my personal opinion is that is it still too far off and looks funny. Sorry for the paint lesson but I get a lot of questions and most are from people that have never painted before but want to. Ken [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/