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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. RE: 3.0 Eagle motors
From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: Where to finance a car
From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx
3. Re: 3.0 Eagle motor
From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx
4. Temporary Import of DMC to USA
From: "ian" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Re: DelMarVA DeLorean Owners
From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
6. Re: Where to finance a car
From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
7. Accounting Paper For College Class
From: "Rocco S. Rossetti" <rossett1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: 3.0 Eagle motor
From: jeremysmail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
9. Re: Strange Delorean for Sale
From: danielpwillis@xxxxxxxxxxx
10. Re: engine swap
From: "Richard Cutter" <dmc_power@xxxxxxxxxxx>
11. Re: 3.0 Eagle motor
From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx
12. RE: Strange Delorean for Sale
From: "dmc" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
13. DML members in Hawaii??
From: "Zack Maze" <zackjm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
14. Re: Craig Radio
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
15. RE: 3.0 Eagle motors (and trannies)
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
16. lowering vs. stock wheel space
From: Soma576@xxxxxxx
17. Re: DML members in Hawaii??
From: Soma576@xxxxxxx
18. lockup torque converter conversion
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
19. Tires
From: srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
20. Noisy fuel pump
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
21. be gratefull for your blessing
From: Horseman of PA <the_horseman_pa@xxxxxxxxx>
22. Humor (was Re: DML members in Hawaii??)
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
23. Re: be gratefull for your blessing
From: "Darren Morton" <Darren.Morton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
24. Re: DelMarVA DeLorean Owners
From: Murray3307@xxxxxxx
25. Re: Tires
From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:17:32 -0700
From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 3.0 Eagle motors
The two cars retrofited by Pacific Rim were both done because the DMC motors
were shot, and the owners wanted to try something different. I also think,
however, that the costs got away from them somewhat. I know what the first
one totalled, but will let the owner tell that if he wants to. The second
is underway at this time. As for the DMC heads not fitting on the Eagle
block, I can't answer that. John Lane at Pacific Rim thought they would, so
we'll have to wait and see how he accomplishes that. I do know he said he
would be using the even fire cams and alloy rockers in the DMC heads. I'll
keep everyone posted.
--
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
McCleary, WA
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:39:49 -0000
From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Where to finance a car
The first and best place to try to get a loan to buy a Delorean would
be the bank you are currently doing business with. If you have some
money with them and a good history of payments you should be able to
get a personal loan with the car as collateral. As an alternative if
you have significant assets try to get a personal loan, don't call it
a car loan, some banks don't understand collecter cars and will want
to make it a car loan. It also pays to shop because some banks give a
better rate than others. Don't forget to negotiate the costs of the
loan and try not to have any pre-payment penalties so if you have to
you can sell the car without extra costs. It always pays to try to
have at least a casual relationship with an officer in the bank, at
the very least say hello to them whenever you are in, they have the
authority to waive all kinds of charges for good customers or at least
the ones they like.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, Aaron Posey <cadysrme@xxxx> wrote:
> Try a smaller or newer local lending institution. I got my
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:48:33 -0000
From: jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 3.0 Eagle motor
I think it might be very interesting to see where this can go. You are
right, it hardly seems worth it just for 20 hp. But think of the
possibilities if during the swap you were to improve the 3.0 eagle
engine. You are now starting at a higher level of power with the room
for more. I would think that performance parts are more readily
available for the 3.0 and there are more people knowledgeable on it.
Any time you deviate from a stock configuration it is going to be
expensive especially the first time but you are not doing it to save
money, a Delorean PRV engine can probably be bought cheaper and
installed at less cost, and time then trying this.(Even the new and
improved version?)
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, srubano@xxxx wrote:
> IMHO,
> I would rather modify my existing Delorean engine and get 200hp+ out
> of it. The 20 Hp gain from the Eagle engine is not worth the hassle.
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:15:34 +0800
From: "ian" <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Temporary Import of DMC to USA
Non-USA DMCers,
Over the past months I have been organising for my right-hand-drive DeLorean
to be shipped to California from HongKong for a full restoration. My idea is
to have some basic work done on the car using parts from my spares-car. Then
get one of the DMC dealers to refurbish her properly.
I am now enquiring about importation of the vehicle to the USA. Has anyone
else on the List "been there, done that, and bought the T-shirt!" If so I
would be delighted to hear your comments. My brain is becoming overloaded
with Customs requirements, Environ.Protection's requirements EPA3620-1, and
Highways Dept. requirements DOT HS-7, etc, etc, etc!!!
Hopefully when she is complete I can get her to a DMC Show and let the
'local DMCers' see the steering wheel on the "wrong side!"
Cheers, IAN
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:31:18 EST
From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: DelMarVA DeLorean Owners
The DeLorean get together is in the works for sometime in Mid March. I hope
that this enough time for everyone to schedule a Saturday get together. Since
some owners are coming from different directions, I thought of meeting at the
Lincoln Memorial or over by the Smithsonian on the Mall.
The Tucker collection is Private. The owner wants to demonstrate the cars
and the Tucker car features. The presentation is long, but you will walk away
comparing the Tucker story & DeLorean story. Oh, the cars are similar too. As
each Tucker was completed, the engineering dept. had production line changes
made to the next group of Tuckers. Similar to DMC. You can take as many
pictures as you want.
I live outside of Annapolis Maryland.
DelMarVA = Delaware, Maryland, Virginia
Mike
VIN3713
DOA4743
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:34:45 EST
From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Where to finance a car
Provident Bank offers collector car financing.
1-800-PBM-LEND
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:30:50 -0500
From: "Rocco S. Rossetti" <rossett1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Accounting Paper For College Class
Hello Whomever
I am currently an Accounting student at Marshall University which is located
in Huntington, West Virginia. For my Senior paper, I have chosen to do it
on the DeLorean Motor Corp. This paper will be a 15 minute Power Point
presentation. I will talk about the start up, what happened with the
company, why the car was so special, and what caused the company to
flounder.
Does anybody happen to have any financial statements regarding DMC, or even
John DeLorean himself? Do you know where to get them? The reason I am
asking this is because I need to talk about the factors that lead to the
dismay of the company.
I already talked to the SEC, but they don't know what I am talking about.
Does anybody happen to have any professional looking picture of the car,
please email them. I will use it as a background. I have also been looking
for a .gif in which the car doors open, but couldn't find one.
If you could help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.
If you have anything, you could email me privately.
Rocco
Rocco S. Rossetti
255 Laidley Hall
Marshall University
Huntington, WV 25755-5428
304.696.4032
http://webpages.marshall.edu/~rossett1
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:18:01 -0000
From: jeremysmail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 3.0 Eagle motor
This is could be a project worth considering. I'd rather do this then
go with the Land Rover engine. Better parts, easier to get, less
expesnive. It also MIGHT fit under the standard hood unlike the Rover
engine.
Of course you'll most likely have to chance just about everything
else. IE trans, cooling, etc.
I would only do this on one that needed comeple mechanical overhaul
of course becuase of this.
Now who can actually do it. I'll look for the dead car.
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, srubano@xxxx wrote:
> If I was going to go through the trouble of engine swaps and want
> more of a challenge (which I am going to do ;)) I would swap it
with
> the Caddy NorthStar engine. Now this is an ENGINE :). I have been
> doing some reasearch on this and allot of car builders/Rod builders
> use this engine. It's light, small and powerfull, 300hp powerful.
> Wire it up right and you can enable the "Limp Home" mode that the
> Caddy's feature. This engine can run without a drop of antifreeze,
> when the computer detects the engine is over heating, it stops
firing
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:12:25 -0000
From: danielpwillis@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Strange Delorean for Sale
Hi,
I bought the Delorean with the TV in the dash (Vin #5641). I'm
currently building a web site about her restoration. I would agree
with all comments so far, she was a heap. Almost not worth restoring
but I couldn't let her rot and the price was right at the time. I've
completely stripped the car down (including the paint - which was
a "glitter" effect) and I am slowly bringing her back to life (with a
LOT of help).
I shall post more details about the site when it becomes live....very
soon!
If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them!
Dan Willis, UK, Vin #5641 "Maddie"
PS
Yes, she did have a TV...for about 5 minutes.....
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Jack & Virginia Stiefel" <stiefel@xxxx> wrote:
> I am not sure if this is possible or not, but I may know the second
car you
> saw. I went to visit a lady in Rome, NY a while back. It seems she
won in a
> lawsuit 5 DeLoreans from her ex-boyfriend. Anyway I was interested
in
> seeing them, so she invited me down. I was amazed at what I saw.
Not one
> of these cars were in very good shape. One was painted Silver
metallic
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:06:13 -0000
From: "Richard Cutter" <dmc_power@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: engine swap
Hello...
See www.americancustomeng.com
for Cad. Northstar install
>From: "Jim Plamondon" <saab82@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [DML] engine swap
>Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 22:12:07
>
>
>Has anyone ever done engine swap,or knows someone who has done it
>before?
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:33:26 -0000
From: DMCVegas@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 3.0 Eagle motor
I've been looking into the 3.0 litre PRV-6 from the Eagle Premier as
an engine swap to see what options are available. While I am content
with the power my existing engine has, I'm always interested in
examining possible options for increasing power. So, I naturally
looked to the next largest engine on the list comparable to mine.
I don't wish to swap out the engine for either a Chevy, or a
Northstar. I myself do not care for the Chevy motor, and the
Northstar is WAY too expensive. Aside from cost, I have also seen a
few unfavorable reviews of the Northstar on the internet. I know the
Northstar has the "limp-home" feature, but if my car has that kind of
an emergency, I would rather have the car towed home then risk damage
to it. Asides from that, I don't want to have to install a load of
electronics to control the motor. Simplicity and common Volvo
components are better in the event that the car would have to be
worked on. If nothing else, I want to maintain the car's heritage of
the PRV-6.
I do like the looks of the Eagle Premier engine, but it still doesn't
look like it may be the appropriate choice. Myself, I perfer the K-
Jetronic fuel injection as opposed to EFI. IMHO it is simpler to
tune, maintain, and to troubleshoot. Plus I would much rather stick
with the current ignition components and electronics that the
DeLorean currently uses. Since the 3.0 version is evenfireing, this
doesn't look like it could be done. Unless of course the D's
crankshaft and valvetrain could be mated to the PRV block. Even here
I do not if if this could either be done, or if it might hinder any
performance gains. What I am mainly looking for is the increasd size
and compression of the 3.0 engine to be applied to the DeLorean.
Since I haven't seen either a final cost or any dyno results, it is
hard to determine weather or not the PRV swap is an efficient way to
go. According to the DOC UK's web site, the free-flow exhaust system
would be a larger performance increase on it's own then the entire
3.0 litre engine. Then again, the hp rating on the 3.0 motor could be
due to a simular situation as the 2.8 in the D. Perhaps it too was
subject to even stricter emissions laws. Maybe there is a potential
for a good deal of power output there... But utill the final results
are in, so far the best way to go appears to be the 198 hp conversion
from DMC Houston.
-Robert
vin 6585
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:47:47 -0500
From: "dmc" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Strange Delorean for Sale
Yes...This one was painted silver...same car.
They were trying to sell it for $12K I think...not sure now off the top of
my head, but I knew it was not worth it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack & Virginia Stiefel [mailto:stiefel@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 10:50 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [DML] Strange Delorean for Sale
I am not sure if this is possible or not, but I may know the second car you
saw. I went to visit a lady in Rome, NY a while back. It seems she won in a
lawsuit 5 DeLoreans from her ex-boyfriend. Anyway I was interested in
seeing them, so she invited me down. I was amazed at what I saw. Not one
of these cars were in very good shape. One was painted Silver metallic
(like a bass boat)
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:04:21 -1000
From: "Zack Maze" <zackjm@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML members in Hawaii??
hey list!
im in the process of buying my first delorean, and i should soon be the
proud owner of vin #980 if all goes well. anyway, i was just wondering if
there are any delorean owners in hawaii, and what island/ city they are
living in... by the way, im located in kona on the big island.
would i be wrong if i assumed that there was an owners club in the works a
few years ago (oahu)?? although i live on another island i would be more
than happy to ship my car over every once in a while for a meet. id like to
get to know some of you sometime, and i hope to get atleast a few responces
from this.
...and another thing, are there any good mechanics or certain shops that
youve had some good experience with? ive found someone willing to work on
the delorean who claims he's had some experience with the car, but you can
never be too sure. i know you guys are out there, ive seen more than one
delorean in honolulu, (who owns the red one!?!) its just a matter of getting
in touch with you...
Zack
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:44:55 -0800
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Craig Radio
Thanks Andy, you're very right, I just checked. I sweep eBay every night,
just didn't see it, tunnel vision I guess...!
Les (10059)
Soma576@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Les,
>
> i was just on Ebay and i believe i saw one there. check it out!
>
> Andy
>
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:05:47 -0500
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 3.0 Eagle motors (and trannies)
I mention this every time the Eagle 3.0 engine comes up on the DML:
Because AMC designed the Premier to be a luxury car, it offered a smooth and
reliable version of the Renault automatic tranny which, at a glance, looked like
it might be modified to fit into a DeLorean. It was an automatic with
*overdrive*.
As with other tranny swaps for the DeLorean, it would be necessary to find a way
to reverse its gearing. I believe this has never been done successfully with
that particular gearbox, but a creative person who undertook such a project
might create a very unique and luxurious DeLorean.
If you swapped engines to increase horsepower, you might appreciate the
acceleration a few times a week. But if you swapped the normal automatic for an
automatic with overdrive you could appreciate the decreased engine rev and
improved fuel economy every moment that you spent on the freeway.
I think the many problems with such an adaptation were discussed on the DML a
few months ago, but a quick search of the back issues turned up nothing.
- Mike Substelny
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:13:19 EST
From: Soma576@xxxxxxx
Subject: lowering vs. stock wheel space
Hello,
can someone clue me in as to the average space between the front tire and quarterpanel with a stock DeLorean vs. a DeLorean with a lowered front end? i'm talking about the 1.5" lowering kit sold by the major vendors. rear measurements would be great too.
thanks!
Andy
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:04:17 EST
From: Soma576@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML members in Hawaii??
In a message dated 2/27/01 8:36:05 AM Central Standard Time,
zackjm@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> ...and another thing, are there any good mechanics or certain shops that
> youve had some good experience with? ive found someone willing to work on
> the delorean who claims he's had some experience with the car, but you can
> never be too sure.
>
>
you'll know the mechanics don't know anything about your car when you pull in
for engine work, ask them if they've ever worked on a DeLorean before, and
all the guys crowd around and say, 'oh yeah, a few times!'... then they walk
to the front of the car and ask you to 'pop the hood'. surefire, i tell ya.
andy
Soma576@xxxxxxx
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:57:14 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
Subject: lockup torque converter conversion
I understand that the stock DeLorean automatic transmission does not use a
lockup torque converter. Does anyone have any opinions about adapting one
to fit? Is there such an animal available, and if installed, would it put
undue stress on the rest of the system? I have an extra D transmission
sitting on my garage floor that got blown up from someone running too much
horse power to it from a Buick engine. (That D has already been restored to
it's original configuration. It was an engine swap that wasn't done right.)
From the left over parts, I have some toys to play with.
Walt Tampa, FL
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:39:00 -0000
From: srubano@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Tires
I was just on tirerack.com and noticed that Michelin has a tire model
out that would work for the D, it's the Michelin Pilot XGT H4. It
comes in both 195 and 235 sizes and has some really good ratings
including wet/snow traction. It says that it is a High Performance
All-Season tire and the cornering and dry tractions are really
good....not as good as the Yoks but very close. Has anyone used these
tires on their D yet? Or has anyone heard of anyone using them?
Steve
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:08:01 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Noisy fuel pump
Rob Grady was right....
Replacing my old noisy fuel pump with a new one doesn't make the new one any
less noisy. When hot, it sounds like a seat belt buzzer. It isn't peculiar
to my car either. Coming back from a long trip in a two car DeLorean
convoy, Randy's fuel pump was really noisy too.
The longer the car runs, the more noise it makes. The less fuel that is in
the tank, the sooner it gets hot, and the more noise it makes.
There seem to be 3 main sources that heat the fuel:
1) the radiator fans blowing hot air on the fuel tank.
2) fuel circulating through the fuel distributor.
3) fuel circulating through the control pressure regulator.
Can anyone say which is the most significant source of heat and what can be
done about it?
Rob mentioned making a heat shield to deflect hot air from the fuel tank.
Has anyone done this and can give advice on how to go about it? And is it
effective?
If radiant heat isn't enough to warm up the control pressure regulator, it
has two electric heaters of its own, and ofcourse, thermally isolating it
isn't an option.
The fuel distributor could be thermally isolated better. It looks like it
is insulated by an o-ring seal, yet it 'appears' to be held down by 3 screws
that are not properly shown in any of the OEM manuals. Is this right? It
looks like there could be room under the fuel distributor for a full size
insulating gasket, and the retaining screws could be made of a material that
has better insulating properties than steel. An insulating adapter
extension ring could be made with an extension for the control plunger, but
the clearance for the engine cover is already pretty tight.
If all else fails, I am considering installing a transmission fluid cooler
in the low pressure fuel return line. This might help cool things a bit.
Would this be nuts? I'm not talking about doing anything REAL stupid like
mounting it in front of the radiator. I'm thinking about mounting it next
to the accumulator where it would be protected inside the frame; although,
there isn't much air circulation in that area. An electric fan would be a
bit much, and ducted air would be even more of a safety hazard. Maybe
radiant dissipation would be sufficient.
Or maybe I'm just not playing the radio loud enough.
Other things I have considered is that the fuel suction line is conducting
vibration through to the bottom of the tank. I'm using an OEM hose, so I
don't see this as being a significant contributing factor.
And don't go teasing me that this is too much candy for a nickel. You guys
doing the 3.0 Eagle motor conversions are further out in left field than I
am! And look at where I'm coming from :-)
Walt Tampa, FL
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:28:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Horseman of PA <the_horseman_pa@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: be gratefull for your blessing
This is just a general posting. I just wanted to say I
think everyone involved in the DeLorean movement is
very lucky. I have been running into walls all over
the place looking to buy a DeLorean. but when you are
a poor slob you can't change that. I have met with
mutch disapointment I just wanted to say to everyone.
be happy for what you have. no matter if you bought
it, inherited, got it as a gift or whatever. Just
remember your good fortune and the next time someone
comes up to you and asks "Can i see the car" instead
of being insulted and outraged consider maybe it is
someone who is in love with the car but is just not as
fortunet as you to be able to have one. A dream is
just that A Dream so lets all live the dream.
thanks
Wayne
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:37:03 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Humor (was Re: DML members in Hawaii??)
Andy,
That reminds me of the guy with the fake air scoop on the trunk. Maybe if I
started with a damaged hood, adding a faux air scoop could make room for a
rear tire or other large items if it didn't block the visibility too much.
Have you ever had anyone at a filling station ask where the engine is when
you have the trunk open? How about someone make the upper half of a mock-up
engine and stick it in the trunk to confuse people at car shows? Make it
real looking and label it as Lamborghini, Rolls Royce, Tucker, Bell
Helicopter, Mr Fusion or whatever. What a riot that would be! Bad bad!
Walt Tampa, FL
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From: Soma576@xxxxxxx <Soma576@xxxxxxx>
>... then they walk
>to the front of the car and ask you to 'pop the hood'. surefire, i tell
ya.
>
>andy
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:40:50 +1100
From: "Darren Morton" <Darren.Morton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: be gratefull for your blessing
I agree.
In Australia where I live You would be lucky to see a D in the flesh
let alone on the highways. I think there are now 10 in the country and
there selling up to $110,000 aussie dollars (60,000US).
I live the dream through the DML and look forward to that one day that
I actually see a D for real.
Darren VIN # One day
>>> the_horseman_pa@xxxxxxxxx 02/28/01 10:28 >>>
This is just a general posting. I just wanted to say I
think everyone involved in the DeLorean movement is
very lucky.
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:28:26 EST
From: Murray3307@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DelMarVA DeLorean Owners
Is the DelMarVa get together for members of an organization only or can
anyone with a Delorean come?
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:18:22 EST
From: senatorpack@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Tires
They are a great tire. I purchased a new 93 Acura Integra GS. When the
original XGT V-4 tires went after 20,000 miles, I purchased 2 sets of the XGT
H-4. The difference was that the H rated lasted longer. I drove the car until
I had 115,000 miles.
However for the DeLorean the Pirelli P600 or the Yokohama AVS are a great
tire for the car. I currently run the AVS intermediates on the DeLorean.
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