Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderator@xxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 8 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. need help wiht part From: efren hicks <marty_mcflyJr@xxxxxxxxx> 2. Re: Stainless labels and other things... From: billschaferabn@xxxxxxx 3. Re: Stainless labels and other things... From: sand131@xxxxxxx 4. Different fasica colors / hard starting after driving From: abatt10347@xxxxxxx 5. Re: shipping engine From: Bob Brandys <oehcs@xxxxxxxxx> 6. Re: Non-starting problems, fuel pressure related? From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 7. Re: Stainless labels and other things... From: billschaferabn@xxxxxxx 8. Frame Repair From: billschaferabn@xxxxxxx ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 14:45:17 -0700 (PDT) From: efren hicks <marty_mcflyJr@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: need help wiht part does any one know where i can get a used master cylinder, or buy one (not from any delorean place) like kragen or something please email me privately. efren 16072 ps also on bob brandys cars (97 time machine) wicth part of the window rolls down? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:29:19 EDT From: billschaferabn@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Stainless labels and other things... Bruce, I have a Jan 82 Vin # 1596 and mine had the clock in the radio. Evidently Dec was the change over month. Bill #1596 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:17:40 EDT From: sand131@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Stainless labels and other things... In a message dated 04/29/2000 5:58:15 PM Central Daylight Time, billschaferabn@xxxxxxx writes: << Bruce, I have a Jan 82 Vin # 1596 and mine had the clock in the radio. Evidently DEC was the change over month. Bill #1596 >> Bill something is wrong with the info above, I think? I have VIN #1606 and it was built in June 1981 and you have #1596 built six months later?? Ralph VIN #1606 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:40:29 EDT From: abatt10347@xxxxxxx Subject: Different fasica colors / hard starting after driving Hankand Cliff, I maybe wrong on this ( and yes please anyone correct me) but there was a change in the paint code #s. This may explain why some are darker and some are lighter. I just had my front repainted and with the new code it turned out light (matches the rear). Also the way the paint is applied ( thanks for the help Ken) has a lot to do with how dark the color comes out. Anyone else want to give this one a try? I have had this problem only when it is very hot outside. Car will start fine, drive for about an hour, then sit for 30 min and will turn over but will not start. (yes you can hear the fuel pump running each time) The solution I have found is a can of starter fluid that I use sparingly. Used the can only 3 times all last summer. Yes I think the fuel accumlator is slowly going south, but that will wait until after Cleveland. Hope this info helps. Bruce Battles Vin# 6569 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:56:35 -0500 From: Bob Brandys <oehcs@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: shipping engine I had an engine shipped from Cal to Il for about $60. I have also shipped an engine to NJ for $80. the trick is to have the pallet and steel banding to hold the engine on. Various freight services will handle the engine but you have to bring it to them. If you have a truck and engine hoist this is easy. If you don'T try to get a friend with a truck to let you use it. Bob > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:27:39 -0500 From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Non-starting problems, fuel pressure related? First off, do you have any of the manuals for the DeLorean? Please understand that I'm not saying this to make light of your expertise but, even though the K-Jetronic fuel injection is relatively simple compared to computerized new cars, you do need some understanding of how the system works before you can begin to trouble shoot it. The round thing you refer to is not the accumulator and has no bearing on fuel pressure. It's simply a mechanical device that connects incoming air flow to a valve in the fuel distributor. When air forces it down the valve opens in an amount corresponding with the amount of air flow and sends fuel to the injectors. If your accumulator is bad the engine won't retain residual fuel pressure when shut down. It will need the fuel pump to build that pressure back. The problem with that is if the engine doesn't start with-in a few seconds of cranking, the RPM relay turns the pump off. This prevents flooding in an engine that has all systems functioning. If you need to get the pressure back up you should crank for 5 or 10 seconds, turn the key off, and then crank again for 5 or 10 seconds, continuing this until pressure gets high enough to start the engine. A really bad accumulator probably will never get the fuel pressure high enough. Another trick is to unplug the blue connection from the cold start valve and the grey connection from the control pressure regulator. Plug the grey plug onto the cold start valve. This will cause the cold start valve to open and allow some fuel into the engine even with low pressure. You must unplug this as soon as the engine starts or you will flood it. If this last trick starts your warm engine when normal starting procedure fails, you either have a bad accumulator or a bad check valve in the fuel pump. Bruce Benson > My D' wont start, i put the key in and it turns over > but wont start > > I have been threw all the checks in and around the > fuel pump, i have rotated it, jumped it, remounted > it.. etc, No problems there.. > > The next step which i performed today was going back > to the engine and taking off the air filter and > pressing down on the round thing (fuel accumlator?) to > see if there was pressure. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:03:29 EDT From: billschaferabn@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Stainless labels and other things... Bruce, Its really 11596 but I usually leave off the extra 1. But my door panel says Jan of 1982. So I know mine was built after yours. Thanks for the come back on it. I will start adding the extra 1. Bill ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:12:05 EDT From: billschaferabn@xxxxxxx Subject: Frame Repair egroup, I need some advice and help on how to best repair my frame. I took my D in yesterday for brake work and found out I have rust through on both the front and rear frame parts. The frame has rusted underneath the paint and in the back part it looks like a small water leak in the engine area really helped thing race along. Can small areas the size of a egg be cut again and new pieces welded in ? What are the options to fix this short of the $7,000.00 new stainless Steel frame. HELP! ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________
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