dmcnews-digest Sunday, October 11 1998 Volume 03 : Number 425
In this issue:
DML: Main Bearing Oil Seal Replacement
DML: JZD gets reprieve in sale of estate
DML: Re:on tv
DML: Re: Fwd: clutch master cylinder
Re: DML: The Day Every DeLorean Owner Dreads...
DML: My Classic Car (was "On TV")
DML: CNBC DeLorean Special
DML: Are DeLoreans Y2K Compliant?
DML: DeLorean Event this Saturday in Western PA
DML: Certificates
DML: Replacing window regulators
DML: Fwd: Denver area owners
DML: No Gas!
Re: DML: Main Bearing Oil Seal Replacement
DML: Crash Test Video
DML: New owner, again & question
DML: Re: clutch master cylinder
DML: DeLorean newspaper article
DML: Re: Main Bearing Oil Seal Replacement
DML: My Delorean
Re: DML: No Gas!/ 5 Point Harness
Re: DML: Crash Test Video
DML: electrical malfunction
DML: Re: Crash Test Video
DML: Re: electrical malfunction
Re: DML: electrical malfunction
DML: CHASSIS PART WANTED
Re: DML: Crash Test Video
DML: Re: New owner, again & question
Re: DML: Re: Crash Test Video
DML: Re: Cost to refinish stainless panels
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:24:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sean Manning <mannings@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Main Bearing Oil Seal Replacement
Hello-->
I've tracked down and plugged up about 2 oil leaks and I only have
1 left (I hope.) There's a streak of oil coming from behind the
crankshaft pulley that drives the alternator and air conditioning drive
belts. I suspect that its just the oil seal inside the timing cover that
has worn out. I'd like to replace it myself since it doesn't seem that
involved and mechanics always seem to end up with "left over parts" when
they work on my cars. However, the shop manual says to use some specialty
"inserting tool" to insert the new seal. My question is: has anyone done
this (was the experience a nightmare?) and is the tool absolutly necessary
or is it just to to make things easier? Thanks all. :)
Sean Manning
VIN#1932
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:16:59 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: JZD gets reprieve in sale of estate
>From the Ocotber 5th Edition of the Philadelphia Daily News...
NEWARK, N.J. -- There has been a temporary reprieve in the sale of the
sprawling Bedminster estate of former automaker John DeLorean,which had
been scheduled to go on the auction block tomorrow.
The Star-Ledger of Newark reported in yesterday's editions that his
former lawyer, Mayer Morganroth, won a delay of at least 30 days -- and
possibly as long as a year -- in the auction.
The delay will let Morganroth appeal a provision providing for DeLorean's
children to keep the Georgian manor home on 434 acres of pasture and
woods.
Morganroth is suing for money he says DeLorean owes him.
"It's not going Tuesday, but it will go. That's one thing everyone
knows," said David Roberts, DeLorean's current attorney.
The one-time automotive genius hasn't held a job since his car company
crashed 16 years ago. DeLorean says he now lives on Social Security.
DeLorean has overcome legal, financial and personal troubles before. He
was acquitted in criminal trials and fended off more than $100 million in
civil suits after the collapse of his car company. He also has held off
foreclosure of his property for seven years.
"I wonder how he eats from day to day. I feel sorry for him," said his
brother, Charles, who said he is owed $2 million by the former automaker.
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 00:06:45 +0000
From: chad knott <bto@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re:on tv
Ops. I didn't realize I didn't put the network. Sorry it'll be on The
Nashvill Network (TNN). I can't really tell what time it'll be on
though 'cause I don't know myself yet.
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:41:50 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Fwd: clutch master cylinder
Rob,
We have no data on any application for this part other than for the
DeLorean. Our friendly DeLorean parts suppliers should be able to hook you
up with a fresh new unit.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:45:06 -0600 (MDT)
From: raddad@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: The Day Every DeLorean Owner Dreads...
Ouch!
Regarding insurance: I experienced a break-in while on a trip a couple of
years ago. Broke the window, ripped up the dash, gouged the vinyl, stole
the CD player, etc. The incident occured in Lincoln NE. I got the window
fixed in a suburb of Chicago and did the balance of the work myself after
I
got home. Used two different DeLorean suppliers to get the necessary
parts. Installed them myself. I was really concerned about what "proof" I
would need for the insurance company. All they asked for was a copy of
the
police report. Nothing else. Paid the clam without any fuss or paperwork
and sent no claims rep to see me. I was extremely pleased and satisfied
with how they handled the claim. The insurance company is ITT Hartford.
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 10:42:30 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: My Classic Car (was "On TV")
The My Classic Car episode November 7 & 8 is a repeat of the 1997
Autofest episode, featuring Lincoln Nation's short lecture and a few nice
appearances by DeLoreans. It is Episode #986106. According to their
website:
this is the last time the DeLorean installment will be shown. My Classic
Car is on TNN (The Nashville Network) every Saturday and Sunday
afternoon.
While you are at the MCC website, you might notice that their latest
Internet Classic Car Challenge, "The Show Car Showdown," was won
by JZD's Pontiac GTO, beating out some tough competition. Also notice
that there are no DeLorean-related links in their "Hobby Homepages"
section, presumably because none of us has submitted any (yet).
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:20:08 EDT
From: KKoncelik@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: CNBC DeLorean Special
For those of you at the Cincinnati show, you are aware that CNBC spent
the day
videotaping the event to add to the special they were running on John
DeLorean. the targeted air date was some time in October.
They called me on Tuesday and Due to editing and other things they have
not
yet completed the segment for the show and an air date still has not been
set.
I will keep you posted so you don't miss it.
Thanks
Ken
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 13:56:54 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Are DeLoreans Y2K Compliant?
A few months ago someone made a joke about DeLorean time machines
and the millennium bug.
Personally, I do not take the Year 2000 threat to automobiles very
seriously. I assume that even if my DeLorean's computer does have a
calender (does anyone know for sure?), said calender probably gets
reset to 1981 every time I disconnect my battery.
But for the amusement of my DML friends, I want to share this article I
found on the Internet:
http://year2000.dci.com/articles/1998/10/07auto.htm
The authors claim that an "AMC Eagle" (possibly Eagle Premier?) was
tested, and it experienced a computer failure when the date rolled over
to Jan 1, 2000.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 15:04:50 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Event this Saturday in Western PA
Reminder:
The DeLorean Club of Ohio will be joined by DeLorean Midatlantic this
Saturday for a nice "Fall Tour" type of event. It involves lunch, a drive
through the country, then a feast and a night at a rustic inn.
The Medeval feast and overnight accomodations at the Riverside Inn are
probably all booked by now, but anyone who wants to join us for lunch
or the country drive is welcome to come along. We will be meeting at
The Quaker Steak and Lube in Sharon PA about 11 AM.
If you want to try to get a room reservation at the Riverside Inn, their
number is 1-800-964-5173.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 12:00:34 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Certificates
Just a quick update:
The remaining Limited edition certificates have been mailed.
All Certificates I believe needed attention are complete, I would guess
that if you are expecting a certificate and do not receive it by Oct 15th
to 20th you should contact me and let me know.
Please bear in mind that the list is the active document, any spelling or
information errors on your certificate will not invalidate your
reservation, certificates which may not be perfectly printed on the
document stock (paper) will not be replaced so don't ask.
The reissue of traded reservations have also been mailed, so if you sent
in
a reservation certificate you purchased you will be receiving a new
certificate with your name and fact information (Vin.Lic,SR No.s) and Gold
embossed seal affixed.
Thanks
Lee
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:37:06 -0400
From: Mike Griese <magriese@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Replacing window regulators
I have done the dreaded window regulator replacement on
the driver's side door of my car. The regulator kit was purchased
from DeLorean One and came with a reasonable set of instructions.
The key to this repair is patience. Getting the old regulator out is
not a problem since you can cut the thing up and remove it in
pieces. Putting the new one in does require some finesse
with moving the regulator around within the door and taking
care not to force anything. I found that it was much easier to
fit the new regulator by taking the motor off outside the door
and putting it back on after the track mechanism was fitted
into place.
It sounds like this is a good topic for the 'zine. If you liked
my fuel pump/Tankzilla article in the last one, I could
probably be convinced to write one for the window
regulator replacement. Particularly if someone wants
to donate a new passenger side regulator to the cause!
;-)
Michael A. Griese
IBM Storage Systems Division
Rochester, MN 55901
Internet: magriese@xxxxxxxxxx
voice: (507)253-1853
fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:59:12 -0000
From: "john l sullivan" <sullivan@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fwd: Denver area owners
do you know of any one who has a delorean in or near denver,co
please let me know
thank you
john l sullivan
johnson auto plaza
sullivan@xxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:48:15 -0500
From: "Brad Smith" <brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: No Gas!
Well, my fuel pump has finally died on me! A Special thanks to Joe @ =
Delorean Services for helping me diagnose it, as well! (THANKS JOE!!!) I =
know that there was an issue of Delorean World in the early 90's that =
had complete diagrams on removing, replacing and refitting the fuel =
pump. It doesn't seem to be a very difficult task, but we all like =
cheat sheets to boost our intelligence! So...anyone that may have this =
issue, I would greatly appreciate a copy or scan via email or just a =
quick briefing on the article!=20
If not, I know Marcie at Delorean Owners has the full tech. library =
on disk in Excel format. Maybe I can have her email it for a few =
dollars more! Thanks in advance!
Brad
#1007
Springfield,MO
brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 22:08:49 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Main Bearing Oil Seal Replacement
The tool is used to make sure the seal it put in straight, and reduces
the risk of bending the seal. I have done it (on other cars) without
the tool, but it does make it easier.
I think it is a cheap tool, so it may be worth it to just buy one. It
will still be cheaper than having a mechanic do it, and your more likely
to have it done right.
Sean Manning wrote:
> they work on my cars. However, the shop manual says to use some specialty
> "inserting tool" to insert the new seal. My question is: has anyone done
> this (was the experience a nightmare?) and is the tool absolutly necessary
> or is it just to to make things easier? Thanks all. :)
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:18:53 EDT
From: ShadowDMC@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Crash Test Video
Hi all,
I have not so good news to report. I remember a while back someone asked
about how the car faired in crash tests and it was down right scary. I
had the
pleasure of meeting another DeLorean owner in the South Florida area and
it
just so happend that he had a video of the crash test. This short 2
second
clip was part of a Discovery Channel special a few months ago on crash
tests.
The crash test was a standard head on crash with a wall. Although you
couldn't
see the aftermath of the crash test the impact mostly said it all. The
front
of the car was compeatly crushed and the driver door opened half way on
impact. Also the car bent upwards on impact. As soon as we can transfer
the
video to AVI or MOV format I'll post it on my website.
Orlando Lopez
#06882
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:35:01 -0400
From: "DOUG T VENNER" <DMC12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: New owner, again & question
Well, I broke down and bought another DeLorean to replace the one I sold a
year ago. It's a 83 5-speed, Blk/Grey int. Vin #16880. On my 55 mile drive
home I had no problems, except one. The first time I saw the car it didn't
idle. The previous owner put in a idle computer and all was well. About 20
min. into my trip, I stopped at a toll both and after idling for 10
seconds
the idle started to jump all around. It sounded like it jumped from like
800rpm- 1200 or so rpm. The wierd thing is that the tach was just jumping
back and forth VERY fast right at the 1000rpm mark
Anyone have a clue???
Thanx
Doug Venner NJ
#16880
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 00:07:15 -0400
From: Vicki Miller <"1000mil@xxxxxxx"@gte.net>
Subject: DML: Re: clutch master cylinder
To All DML Members
in reference to the clutch master cylinder... I am able to rebuild them.
for a big savings..using new parts.. call for more information
all is not lost
bob miller
north carolina
1-919-383-6187
any questions call during the eveing hours
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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 09:45:01 EDT
From: ronklimes@xxxxxxxx (Ronald L Klimes)
Subject: DML: DeLorean newspaper article
Hi!
I've been a faithful reader for the past 6-8 months,but never wrote in
before. My car is Ser. No.3522, with 27,400 miles. I am the original
owner. It runs well & everything works. I just replaced the front tires
with Yokohama AVS-Intermediates. I am a member of the Delorean
Midatlantic Club.
This past Sunday, 10/4/98, there was an article about JZD -complete with
an aireal photo of his estate- in The New Jersey STAR LEDGER. You can
read an excerpt of it on-line. The address is
www.nj.com/njcommunities/ledger/somerset/stories/95fb4c.html
I have the original-in color- in my scrap book.
Talk to ya later.
Ron Klimes
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:50:06 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Main Bearing Oil Seal Replacement
Sean,
The special tool will make the installation much easier but is not
necessary for the installation. You could use the old seal by turning it
upside down and placing it back to back with the new seal. To further help
the process lightly coat the new seal with oil, be careful not to rip any
of the rubber at the edge of the seal.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 98 13:32:34 CDT
From: "Steve Seikel" <seikel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: My Delorean
Hello All,
I recently bought my Delorean (vin# 5xxx) and it seems to be
running quite well, I am the third owner, it has 23,000 miles and a brand
new interior from PJ Grady. It also came with the very large, Chiltons
type owners manual from DMC of california. There was a little bit of
water where the battery was, but besides that its great, i need new
shocks and am getting a 30,000 mile check up to be safe.
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:15:27 PST8PDT
From: "Ken Montgomery" <kenm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: No Gas!/ 5 Point Harness
> Well, my fuel pump has finally died on me! A Special thanks to Joe @ =
> Delorean Services for helping me diagnose it, as well! (THANKS JOE!!!) I =
> know that there was an issue of Delorean World in the early 90's that =
> had complete diagrams on removing, replacing and refitting the fuel =
> pump. It doesn't seem to be a very difficult task, but we all like =
> cheat sheets to boost our intelligence! So...anyone that may have this =
> issue, I would greatly appreciate a copy or scan via email or just a =
> quick briefing on the article!=20
> If not, I know Marcie at Delorean Owners has the full tech. library =
> on disk in Excel format. Maybe I can have her email it for a few =
> dollars more! Thanks in advance!
>
> Brad
> #1007
> Springfield,MO
> brad@xxxxxxxxxxxx
P.J Grady at one time made a video to show how to install a new fuel
pump.
They may have also done videos for other repair/replacment items. I just
have the fuel pump video. Perhaps their videos are still available? I'd
like to have a copy of all of them myself. Any one else out there know
about these?
Also, Lee never got around to mentioning it, but he sent me photos of his
5 point seat belt system for me to post. you'll find them on my website
along with a load of other photos and stuff I've been adding. Look under
'Special Documents' for the photos of Lee's car.
Ken
- --------------------------------------------------
Ken Montgomery My DeLorean VIN #10911 'OUTTIME'
Sacramento, CA
kenm@xxxxxxxx Operating Systems Analyst
W(916) 278-7646 H(916) 944-3252
Please visit my website at:
http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm
- --------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:09:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bill Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Crash Test Video
On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 ShadowDMC@xxxxxxx wrote:
> The crash test was a standard head on crash with a wall. Although you
> couldn't see the aftermath of the crash test the impact mostly said it
> all. The front of the car was compeatly crushed and the driver door
> opened half way on impact. Also the car bent upwards on impact. As soon
> as we can transfer
This news isn't as bad as you might think. The purpose of a crash test
isn't to preserve the integrity of the car, but to protect the
passengers.
The more mangled the car looks and the more parts fly off of it, the safer
the passengers are likely to be. This is why in modern races you see a
driver hit the wall and tires, suspension parts, engine parts, etc. go in
all directions but more often than not the driver walks away. It is
because the car, rather than the driver, has absorbed the energy of the
impact and transferred most of it to the "expendable" parts. In this
case, the crumpling of the front of the car, the bending of the frame, and
(I suppose) the bending of the door, to a lesser extent, help absorb the
energy and prevent the driver from absorbing it instead. I've heard (on
this list) of a DeLorean that was in a head-on collision at 55MPH. The
front end was destroyed and that frame also was bent but the driver was
unhurt.
I'd be more interested in the actual data that the crash test produced.
What did the dummies have to say about it?
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:32:43 EDT
From: JCox4001@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: electrical malfunction
Heres the skinny. Had a loose conection on the cold start valve. Found
it,
fixed it, blew a fuse in the process, in the #7 slot, replaced it. Car
started, happy camper. Next day, worked fine, except the blinkers
wouldn't
work all of the sudden, figured it was just a Delorean and it would
probably
work tomorrow. Third day, deader than a doornail. Jumped it with another
car, but would only run for a few seconds after taking off the jumper
cables.
Whats up with this?
Jeff
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:40:40 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Crash Test Video
Orlando,
Here is a non scientific evaluation of the DeLorean crash worthiness. We
have been servicing DeLoreans ever since the factory closed back in the
early 80's, is all instances of collision estimates and repairs the
DeLorean has always faired well in crashes even with cars bigger and
heavier than itself. When Popular Science reviewed the DeLorean they said;
"What we found was impressive; a well engineered automobile with
exceptional crash and corrosion protection. Remember, safety means
occupant
protection not amount of damage to the vehicle. To prove this point sit in
your DeLorean and measure the distance between you and all the outermost
parts of the car. Factor in all of the materials between you and those
limits; stainless steel body panels, reinforced fiberglass, and the
interior padding, the numbers speak for themselves. On a personal note, I
own a 90 Volvo 760, I feel just as safe if not safer in my "D" as I do in
my Volvo.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:18:19 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: electrical malfunction
Jeff,
When you take off the jumper cables what is your dash voltmeter reading.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 02:37:47 EDT
From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: electrical malfunction
Hi Jeff,
Just went through something very similar with my car. Check the
alternator
and your battery. Replaced both...problem solved. Can you go somewhere
and
have them checked? Good Luck, Joe
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:26:23 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: CHASSIS PART WANTED
TO ALL:
I AM LOOKING FOR THE FUEL TANK CLOSING PLATE (PART NO. 101716). THAT'S THE
BIG PLATE WITH LARGE BOLTS ATTACHED TO THE FRAME DIRECTLY UNDER THE FUEL
TANK.
Joe/DeLorean Services 770 631-4800
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 01:31:32 EDT
From: CBL302@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Crash Test Video
On the subject on Deloreans,I own two delorean parts cars,and both had
severe
front damage,on one car the complete nose up to the upper part of both
wheelwells (the weak point) was totally torn off, the nose flew off the
car in
the accident including the hood. But both doors opened up with no
problem,on
the second parts car it was basically damaged in the same manner but less
severe,
basically,if the people in both of my delorean parts cars,were wearing
seat
belts,they came out with minor injuries,if any at all.
Claude
vin#570
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:52:43 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: New owner, again & question
Doug,
The problem is in the idle speed circuit. The ECU receives a signal from
terminal No. 1 of the ignition coil via a white / slate wire. Check these
connections as well as the connections to the idle speed motor and both
connectors at the idle speed ECU. Also check the connections and operation
of the idle speed micro switch. You shop manual will be helpful in
locating
and identifying these connections, you will find a detailed wiring diagram
at D:05:06. If you need to confirm voltages at the various connections you
can email me for that information. CAUTION: The idle speed ECU has some
sensitive internal components, use caution when taking measurements.
Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:57:31 EDT
From: ShadowDMC@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Crash Test Video
In a message dated 10/9/98 9:25:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
writes:
<< Here is a non scientific evaluation of the DeLorean crash worthiness.
We
have been servicing DeLoreans ever since the factory closed back in the
early 80's, is all instances of collision estimates and repairs the
DeLorean has always faired well in crashes even with cars bigger and
heavier than itself. When Popular Science reviewed the DeLorean they
said;
"What we found was impressive; a well engineered automobile with
exceptional crash and corrosion protection. Remember, safety means
occupant
protection not amount of damage to the vehicle. To prove this point sit
in
your DeLorean and measure the distance between you and all the outermost
parts of the car. Factor in all of the materials between you and those
limits; stainless steel body panels, reinforced fiberglass, and the
interior padding, the numbers speak for themselves. On a personal note, I
own a 90 Volvo 760, I feel just as safe if not safer in my "D" as I do in
my Volvo. >>
Thanks to all who responded and it's a great releif to hear how generally
well
the D's do in crashes. When I saw the video 2 days ago with 2 other
owners we
were in total shock. Thanks again and I will post the video ASAP.
P.S. My E-Mail was Olopez1@xxxxxxx have switched over to ShadowDMC@xxxxxxx
Orlando Lopez
#06882
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:57:54 -0500
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Re: Cost to refinish stainless panels
lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
It will
> >cost in excess of $1000 to just refinish bare steel panels, who knows
> >how much more it will cost to strip the paint off.
> Hi Scott,
>
> Can I disagree with you on the cost of refinishing the stainless panels?
> or better yet, would you mind outlining why it cost a grand to refinish a
> bear metal D?
>
> Thanks
>
> Lee
Lee, DMC Houston, Charges 2 hours per panel to refinish them. Thats
$130 per panel. There are 8 panels.
Scott
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