dmcnews-digest Friday, June 26 1998 Volume 03 : Number 382
In this issue:
DML: Re: Temperature rise on freeway
DML: Re: Alternator Problems?
Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
Re: DML: [admin] DML, DeLorean Owners Directory, new 'zine, and
DML: CHICAGO CAR FOR SALE
Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
DML: Temperature rise on freeway
Re: DML: Temperature rise on freeway
DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
Re: DML: New DeLoreans
RE: DML: Alternate Fuels
Re: DML: car show stats
DML: computer probs
Re: DML: Back in the saddle (hot seat?) again...
DML: Alternate fuels
DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
DML: Brake pedal
DML: British Car Show
DML: Windsheild Washer Motor
Re: DML: Inspector Gadget's DeLorean?
Re: DML: Back in the saddle (hot seat?) again...
Re: DML: Temperature rise on freeway
DML: Finaly got it!
DML: Replacement for windshield washer motor
DML: DeLorean Desktop Theme Updates
DML: need a part.
DML: RE: parts for sale
Re: DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
DML: RE: Finally got it!
DML: Re: Brake pedal
Re: DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
DML: Movie DMC's
RE: DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
Re: DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
DML: Alternative Seats
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:29:01 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Temperature rise on freeway
Dave,
This is an unusual problem, It's usually the other way around; i.e.: O.K.
at highway speeds and rising temperature in town and when exiting the
freeway. I suggest you replace the thermostat thoroughly air bleed the
system and see if that corrects the problem.
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: Dave.Sontos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: Temperature rise on freeway
> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 9:00 AM
>
> I've noticed that my temperature guage climbs to around 200+ when I'm
> driving
> the freeway speed 60-70 mph. When I am in town temperature is rock solid
> 150.
> I've checked for air in the pump, the coolant bottle has about 1-1/2" -2"
> of
> air in it, A/C is in Normal position, fans ARE running. Car is automatic
> with
> original radiator (?) w/100,000 miles.
>
> When I exit freeway, temp returns to normal in 5-10 minutes. I am assuming
> this is NOT normal. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
> VIN 2573
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:20:53 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Alternator Problems?
Daniel,
Get rid of the Ducillier immediately! This alternator which is partly to
blame for poor sales of the car in the early 80's is grossly under
powered.
With a full electrical load your electrical system is pulling about 86
amps
which exceeds the limit if the 80 amp Ducy'. The diodes in this alternator
are also rather small. Replacement Delco's and Motorolas are available
from
several DeLorean vendors. After you replace the alternator if your still
having stalling problems let me know.
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: DML: Alternator Problems?
> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 3:36 AM
>
(SNIP)
> First off, I have a brand new Ducy Alternator 80amp. It's new, but from
> what I understand, underpowered for our cars.
>
> When I'm driving at night, quite often my lights inside and out quiver
> bright to dim and back again in a sinusodial type of pattern. Even if I
> shut everything off, I get the same effect. This is a semi-recent
problem.
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:01:35 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
Joe,
The brake light circuit is an isolated circuit with two controlling
switches, one at the parking brake handle the other is in the brake
reservoir tank. Disconnect the one at the brake handle and see what
happens. You access this switch by pulling off the trim carpet at the
brake
handle and unplug the wire running to the switch.
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 10:27 AM
>
> Thanks Joe,
>
> Here's another one for you. I have an automatic trannie and everytime I
> hand
> shift it, reverse, low, ect., the seatbelt light in the instrument
cluster
> comes on for about 15 seconds????? I know it ain't a biggie, but if you
> have
> any ideas I would be greatfull. Thanks again, Joe (vin1273)
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 23:38:09 EDT
From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: [admin] DML, DeLorean Owners Directory, new 'zine, and
more!
Sender: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Precedence: list
Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
As a Delorean owner and a subscriber to the DML, I would like to THANK
YOU for
your personal great efforts and pursuits in keeping all if this alive.
I did not know who you were until I met you at the Cincinnati's Meet, even
though I know of you through this DML site. Now that I have meet you in
personal, you are a good man. You, like the others are Good People, just
like
Mr. Ken Koncelik who held the event, plus all the OTHERS (that is too
long to
list here) that was involved in this historical event. Again, thanking
you
all in giving all us this great time.
For all of you who did not make it to Cincinnati Meet it was a great one.
If
you did not attend you have missed a red letter date in the history of
this
great marque. I was told, or as the rumor goes, that this was the SECOND
largest gathering of Delorean motorcars and people in the Delorean's
history
that was held in the USA. By now this should be a fact???
By the way, for those of you who do not know Mr. James Espey, he is the
moderator of this site. He is instrumental in giving out materials in
keeping
both the DML and the DMC marque alive. Some of this valuable materials
was
for free at the event, at no cost to us. FREE MATERIALS!!! What a great
contribution to all of the DMC owners, the admirers, and to all DMLer's.
All
of us who logs onto DML site have taken all of his efforts for granted!
Mr. James Espey, I personal think that you deserve a trophy or an award
and
more, for your effort in doing what you are doing in get out to all this
great
"stuff" to us. What a commitment!!! Respect to where respect is due.
You
got my respect.
Incidentally, I love your "advertisement" on your personal Delorean that
you
have driven to the meet. It says: "www.dmcnews.com". Now, all the non-
Delorean owners, admirers and curious folks have a place to seek "correct
and
truthful" answers about the marque and their owners.
It was a sight to see that late Friday afternoon, Mr. Espey's Delorean
pulling
up the hotel driveway with all the material, PACKED and FILLED. (He just
made
it on time.) He even hauled it from his hometown, Scottsdale, Arizona to
Cincinnati, Ohio - too!!! What a task! That is a job in itself. Driving
miles after miles. He remind me in my younger days when I was involved in
my....................Anyway, this is the material Mr. Espey "gave away"
during the 3 day event.
There were other materials that he also sold to GENERATE MONEY FOR HIS
OPERATIONAL COST. YES FOLKS, PLEASE HELP HIS CAUSE, THIS WHOLE CAUSE!
BUY
HIS MATERIAL, BUY HIS STUFF!!!!!!!!!
Order them now. Buy them early, buy them often. If you already have
them,
give them away and buy them again. Help the Mr. James Espey and the DML
site.
Again, Mr. Espey, thank you and keep up the good work!!!!!!!
P.S. Mr. Espey wish you were on my team in my other endeavors and
pursuits.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic 9D NY
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:05:46 -0500
From: Gowler Don-CFPO01 <cfpo01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: CHICAGO CAR FOR SALE
There is a 1981 DELOREAN for sale in Chicago
VIN #02777
4,760 miles
Automatic
Black interior
Asking $18,000
Phone Greg James at (773) 774-6770
Regards, The Silver Fox
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:06:35 EDT
From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
Thanks Joe, but it's the seatbelt light, not the brake light. Best
regards,
Joe
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:22:40 -0700
From: "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Temperature rise on freeway
Dave.Sontos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> I've noticed that my temperature guage climbs to around 200+
> when I'm driving the freeway speed 60-70 mph. When I am in
> town temperature is rock solid 150.
This may sound pretty stupid, but on occasion the cooling fans may have
their polarity reversed in which case they blow air forward through the
radiator instead of sucking it through. At highway speeds the air flow
from
the cooling fans counter the natural flow from the car's motion. Although
this is only a theory, it's a quick thing to check out whether the fans
are
blowing properly.
Knut
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:58:56 -0700
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Temperature rise on freeway
At 08:00 AM 6/23/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I've noticed that my temperature guage climbs to around 200+ when I'm
>driving
>the freeway speed 60-70 mph. When I am in town temperature is rock solid
>150.
>I've checked for air in the pump, the coolant bottle has about 1-1/2" - 2"
>of
>air in it, A/C is in Normal position, fans ARE running. Car is automatic
>with
>original radiator (?) w/100,000 miles.
>
>When I exit freeway, temp returns to normal in 5-10 minutes. I am assuming
>this is NOT normal. Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>Dave
>VIN 2573
>
reply:
Your temp problem is just backwards of the usual, just ram pressure
should
improve cooling. Unless you are running at very high RPM at low road
speed,
I can't imagine what the problem is. I am going to be very interested to
see what it turns out to be.
Lee
81DMC-12
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:31:05 -0600
From: Greg Guillot <gguillot@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
A week or so ago, Scott Meuller mentioned the location of a possible
VIN number on his instrument cluster that he saw when he removed the
cluster. The vin number was a few numbers off from his actual VIN.
The other day, I removed the rear bumper cover and impact absorber
and found "2932" written in Irish black permanent ink ; ) on the rear of
my car's frame (VIN 2926). Again, a number a few off from my actual
VIN. While I'm sure this is totally useless information, I find it to
be a small glimpse into how cars were assembled at the factory, and
why our cars are each a little bit different.
************************************************
Morial Convention Center - New Orleans
Greg Guillot, Director of Info Systems & Services
900 Convention Center Blvd,New Orleans, LA 70130
Phone (504) 582-3116,Fax (504) 582-3104
Email gguillot@xxxxxxxxx
************************************************
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:19:10 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: New DeLoreans
He is better off getting a "Restored" delorean from PJ Grady!
Low milage DeLoreans usualy do not have all the upgrades, and require a
lot of work to make them safe and reliable.
My83DMC@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Dear DML,
> I have a question. A friend of mine has a cousin who owns
> a
> dealership for new Miscellanous Exotic Cars. (i.e. Lamborginis, ect).. He
> has
> 1 DeLorean there, unfortunately, it is not running.. He wanted me to post
> on
> the DML and find out if there are any *NEW* DeLoreans.. New meaning less
> that
> 200 to 300 mileage, near mint condition, ect. He is looking to buy about
> 3 or
> 4, and will pay at least 32,000 for each one, depending on condition. His
> dealership is in the Dallas area, it is called Stanley Exotic Automobiles
> Co.
>
> Does anyone on the list know of any DeLoreans like the
> desciption mentions? Or, can DMC of Houston manufacture DeLorean from the
> parts they have?
>
> Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated!
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:50:45 -0800
From: "tomcio" <tomcio@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DML: Alternate Fuels
Hi,
In Poland (that's where I'm from) we have a lot of cars running on
gas. You can get gas almost on every gas station. (propane gas, that
is) You can convert any car for about $700. They add an aditional
tank and you kaap your existing gas tank. They also install a little
switch somewhere inside the car, so when you run out of gas, all you
have to do is switch to gasoline and you don't even have to slow down
or stop. When you run on propane gas you don't need anything for the
emissions control. The ECU is disabled at that time. Gas burnes much
cleaner and because it is gas (not liquid) there is no deposits
inside the engine. But, there is a catch. When you run on propane gas
the car burns about 10% more propane than gasoline, and you loose
about 10% of the horsepower. In Poland a lot of people do those
conversions because gasoline is very expensive in europe. Propane
costs about 50% cheaper. If someone is interested in getting a
conversion kit please let me know. I can look around and find
something good. I will convert my car as soon as I ship it to Poland.
I will charge for whatever I pay for the kit plus shipping.
Hope this helps, and if you have any question email me directly at
tomciodmc@xxxxxxxx I did some work on converted cars and I know how
it works. Thanks.
Tom
VIN 6298
"Robert A. Rooney" <DMCVegas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on Monday June 22,
1998 at 7:27am:
>Has Anyone here ever had any experience with propane or natural gas
>powered engines? Most all of North Las Vegas city and the gas company
>vehicles run on either one of the 2, and seem to do pretty good in
both
>power & performance. In Vegas, LP stations are pretty easy to come
by,
>but I have 2 questions about this, if you swith over, what are the
pros
>& cons? Will you get better or worse performance from your engine?
Can
>you drive farther or shorter distances on LP or natural gas. And
lastly,
>as odd as this may sound, if there is no gas station in sight, (or at
>least one that has LP) could you fill up at a Barbecue store? Just
>(seriously) asking.
>
>-Robert
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:59:52 -0400
From: Steve <dmc@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: car show stats
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 KKoncelik@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Friday Gregory Center Dinner 145 people
> Saturday Museum Banquet 194 people
> total people (some did not come to sat. banquet)
> approx. 216 plus the general public.
> DELOREANS "71"
Plus I counted 21 Deloreans (including the one on a trailer) on the
caravan to Columbus, can anyone confirm that number? (I may have
missed a few)
Thanks to Ken, James, Stephen, and everybody else who organized and
participated making this event well worth the drive from Florida!
-Steve <dmc@xxxxxxx>
VIN 017117
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:24:27 -0500
From: "Stephen Pitre" <SPitre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: computer probs
I recently posted a =22price adjustment=22 ad. This software I am using =
is having trouble interacting with the net. Thus I will write out the =
numbers instead. I mean to state that twenty seven thusand was
unreasonabl=
e price for my 1981 Delorean and I believe that sixteen thousand is a
more =
reasonable price. Comments and inquiries welcome. Please refer to the =
=22price adjustment=22 ad posted recently. As to the theft, I meant =
Cincinnati and not Houston but I can not blame that goof up on the =
software. =20
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:20:25 EDT
From: KayoOng@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Back in the saddle (hot seat?) again...
Marc,
Hi Marc, this Kayo.
Suggestion for you.
Try using sheep skin covers.
Expensive.
They do an varies multi duties in helping you in during your travels.
Before I got the sheep skin covers, my wife and I took a trip from NYC to
Raleigh, NC two years ago.
When I got out of our Delorean, WOW -- my butt, my back.
It was tough on the both of us.
I did all the driving.
My wife as a passenger hurt too.
Since we had to work as soon as we got out of the car, it was even
tougher.
I didn't feel refresh or ready to work.
Since this was work, my paying audience didn't want to hear about it.
In the past I had done this trip before in my Bentley, no problemo.
Right after that trip I ordered from Delorean One, a set of sheep skin
covers.
I installed it immediately when I received them.
Results, "feels" great.
Very well worth the money.
Last year, March we went to Atlanta, GA in the Delorean.
It was almost just as a long drive as to Raleigh, NC.
Anyway, no discomfort on that trip, it was almost just as comfortable as
the
Bentley.
The difference is the leg alignment in the Delorean.
It is difficult to get used to due to the angle where the gas tank's
contours
makes your leg "sit that way".
That will affect your lower back.
Change your present seating arrangement with the original DMC seats.
Change the length and angle your of your seat versus your body alignment.
If you "lost" that "cushion" or "filling" in your original DMC seats, your
back and butt will hurt!
Must fill in all that lost support.
FYI. I don't think Recardo seat fits?
If so, it will take too much modifications to do so.
It will give you a new seat arrangement to "get use to."
Hope that helps.
Anyone on seats?
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic. 9D NY
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:12:37 +1200
From: "Richard Mazur" <richard@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Alternate fuels
Yes you can run your Delorean on Compressed natural gas or LPG, but I must
wonder why you would want to. In New Zealand we went through a spate of
converting vehicles to either of the two systems but petrol here is $2.20
US
per gallon, I would imagine it would not be that expensive in the US.
Pros and cons.
1) CNG is far cheaper than LPG as a gas, however vehicles loose a
considerable amount of power maybe as much as 30 %, a full tank will only
travel 100 miles.
2) LPG is marginally cheaper than petrol and when you take in the cost of
the conversion is often ignored as an option. A full tank of LPG will cost
around 2/3 of the price of a tank of petrol and will travel the same
distance, around 250 miles. Performance is on par with petrol.
3) because both fuels are gas when they reach the engine, cold starting
and
running problems are eliminated, if you have auto choke on your D you will
need to remove it. The mixer unit which will have to be installed above
your
carburator is 4-5 inches high so you will need to ensure you have
clearance
and room for the other control equiptment.
4) Tanks are heavy when full and in your D you will be installing fairly
high above the front suspension, this is going to severely alter the
handling characteristics and severely limit luggage space.
5) Gass is dry so you will periodically need to run on petrol to lubricate
valves and carburator.
6) both fuels will burn your valve seats over a period of time, in NZ we
install a special hard seat to reduce this efect.
7) both fuels have a corrosive effect on mains and big end bearings,
sufficient traces get into the oil to do damamge so regualr oil changes
are
essential. One of the interesting side effects is that your oil stays
clean,
I have seen engines that have travelled 50,000 miles without an oil change
and you could have emptied the oil out of the sump and sold it as new. It
really is that clean burning, bad news is that people often don't do the
oil
changes because it looks so good. The oil changes are essential.
8) you will need to cut holes in your D for gas lines to pass through and
I
think anyone would find it hard to do this without shedding a tear.
9) in NZ cars that have been running on CNG or LPG are worth considerably
less at resale time.
finally:
dont do it.
Regards
Richard Mazur
New Zealand
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:36:25 -0700
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
Usually when I see a request for something I know about, I wait for ten =
other people to give their responses. This time I have just finished =
the Door Torsion Bar adjustment and thought it might be timely for me to =
comment.
First of all, there may be a lot of us, like ME who are thousands of =
miles from the nearest DeLorean service center who have no choice but to =
do this adjustment themselves or continue to "help" the doors up by hand =
and try to hold it there while you clamber in! I know a lot of clubs =
have the equipment and meetings and seminars where this is done easily.
I would suggest getting hold of the DeLorean World magazine Volume 3, =
Number 4 (Winter 1986). This has complete photographic pictorial =
information as well as written instructions and diagrams, that are =
invalulable. If you do exactly as they say, you can do the job. =20
I would suggest you stick with their list of tools and not substitute =
unless something is STRONGER. For example they suggest using 1/2 inch =
drive tools. Those are a bit harder to find as they are for very heavy =
duty use. It is tempting to use 3/8 drive stuff which is usually =
readily availble either to buy or rent or borrow. There is a =
tremendous amount of torque developed by those torsion bars and I would =
not want to take a chance. I had to buy some of the stuff and borrowed =
a couple items and also bought a 5 foot length of one inch pipe to put =
over the "breaker" bar. THAT leverage is really nice to have available. =
I have been told it takes 200 pounds of pressure to move that bar! =20
I had a retired shop owner mechanic friend help me....we are about the =
same age and work at the same speed....slow and careful. The wood jig =
is a must for this system, but it is easy to build and not expensive. =
I figured that even if it cost me something for the tools, they will all =
be available for another time. I would add one bit of a caution note in =
the procedure and that is to be sure the 3/8 allen socket is fully in =
the Torsion Bar end and keep some inward pressure on it when you are =
working with it, so it will not slip out...THAT is when you bust your =
rear window!!=20
We even did a little "dry run" with everything in place to sort of =
practice....I have seen so many horror stories about this operation that =
we were pretty gun shy and took it slow and easy. =20
The bottom line, is that when I started, my drivers door would lack =
about a foot of going to the full limit when the latch was triggered. =
The passenger door would only come out a few inches and needed help ALL =
the way up. If I had a passenger, I always "let them in and out" !!=20
We moved the drivers door just ONE Notch on the grooves or serrations =
and moved the passengers door two notches. (NEVER do more than >
notch at a time) This was perfect. Both doors now float all the way to =
the top. On a cold day they just barely make it and on a hot day =
sitting in the sun they will just lightly hit the top extreme..I usually =
try to slow it down by hand if it is a hot day, just to be cautious =
about any chance of it "banging" up there and twisting that frame. =20
The first try took us quite a while, but the second was much faster and =
now that we know what we are doing, it could easily be done in a few =
minutes. =20
I guess the most difficult part of it all, was one person getting the =
tension with the long 5 foot pipe extension to the right position so the =
other person could get the two bolts on the bar restarted...but that was =
not really difficult either.
I should have said at the start, that you should be sure your door =
struts are doing their job and replace them before this torsion bar =
adjustment, if need be. =20
I am tickled with the instructions and the results. I am an old man =
(77) and if I can do it anyone can do it! Ho Ho.
Murray Fisher
VIN:05962
Lice: DMC-XII
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 98 18:22:45 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Brake pedal
Does anyone with automatics find that the brake pedal
is too close to the gas pedal ? Just wandering if anyone
has ever moved it and how they did it ?. of course,
not everyone has size 14 sneekers trying to squeeze into the car.
- -Brandon
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:05:21 EDT
From: Gullwing99@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: British Car Show
Hello fellow D lovers,,, just wanted to tell about a British car show
in the
Maryland area, I'm the 8th D going,,If you have any questions please call
my
friend Michael Pack at 410-551-3107,,,,yes only 8,,,nothing compared to
71,,,I'm still sick that I didn't get to make it to that one,,,,but I'll
be
there for sure in 2000 !!
take care
J.B. Vincent
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:54:02 EDT
From: ABatt10347@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Windsheild Washer Motor
Fellow DMCer's,
Does any have a cross reference on part # 101637, windsheild washer motor.
Please email me at ABatt10347@xxxxxxxx As I recieve the digest and need
the
part asap. Also be warned. The drain holes on my container mt cover
(#106087)
were plugged with mud/water. This caused my motor to be submurged causing
an
short in the running lights on the right side. ( continued to blow fuses,
this
also is your dash lights!!!). Make sure that this container has OPEN drain
holes and is sealed at the top.
Bruce Battles
Vin# 6569
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:35:32 -0700
From: Mostafa Sayed <phoenixl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Inspector Gadget's DeLorean?
Hi,
A couple months ago I also noticed similarities between inspectors
gadget's car and the DeLorean. I was meaning to put up a posting a while
ago asking others ideas on that. But I thought people might think it's
pointless. Mike is right, the show did debut in 1983, the overall shape
is the same also. A couple other cars with DeLorean Shape similarities
are the BMW M1, VW Scirroco (I can't spell it right), and the eighties
model Camaro. All debuted around the same time as the DeLorean. All
these cars also were related. The BMW, VW, and DeLorean were designed by
Guigaro, and JZD did work for GM which owned Chevy which made the
Camaro.
Any thoughts?
Mostafa
PS: I'll post a picture of the Inspector Gadget car in my upcoming
section at my web page.
http://members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/index.html
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:29:02 -0500
From: Duke <at88mph@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Back in the saddle (hot seat?) again...
I put a set of '95 leather Trans Am seats in mine with minor mods. Took a
little work but is well worth it. They matched perfectly and you sit a
little
higher too. Both seats cost me $200 for the pair and put about another
$15-25
for the mods I had to do. You can see a pic of them on my web page in the
pictures section.
See ya,
Duke
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8952/delorean.html
> FYI. I don't think Recardo seat fits?
> If so, it will take too much modifications to do so.
> It will give you a new seat arrangement to "get use to."
>
> Hope that helps.
> Anyone on seats?
>
> Kayo Ong
> #05508
> Lic. 9D NY
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:50:03 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Temperature rise on freeway
Automatic.... Is it stuck in a low gear? are the RPM's high?
Dave.Sontos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> air in it, A/C is in Normal position, fans ARE running. Car is automatic
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:11:52 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Finaly got it!
Just figured I would share with the group (and boast a little I guess),
in my efforts to collect Delorean related materials, I have been on the
lookout for a DMC Dealer sign.
Welp, I ran home at lunch time to unload the truck, and I now have the
sign in my garage. Looks like it is in good shape, but is going to need
some work before I hang it in my living room!
So, anyone else out there restore one of these?? Any tips??
One side of the sign is missing the Stainless Steel DMC lettering that
looks like it was just glued on to the plastic. Anyone know where I can
get some? or have new ones made?
Marc
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:50:55 EDT
From: ABatt10347@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Replacement for windshield washer motor
Fellow DMCer's,
Having posted a request for any cross references on the windsheild washer
motor. I started visting parts stores. I have found that there is no cross
reference, or for that matter NO replacement for this motor!!! Most washer
motors on the market now plug (snap) in, not screw in. Having found myself
with a dead motor and nothing to lose, I opened mine and was able to
clean it
up and it works again. When opening the motor ( black plastic case, at end
near terminals). I used a coping saw, making sure to only cut into the
plastic, stopping before reaching the working inside parts. I then
widthdrew
the insides making sure to not disrupt any wiring. I used a dremel tool to
resurface the armature and clean the magnets. I then put it all back
together
and used a sealer to reattach the plastic case. While not for everyone,
with
the failure rate of this part and its cost,a little time and effort is
worth
it. Hope this helps others.
Bruce Battles
Vin # 6569
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:02:18 -0700
From: Mostafa Sayed <phoenixl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Desktop Theme Updates
I wrote to post a couple updates on the DeLorean Desktop Theme.
Including news on the imminent release of the DeLorean Desktop Expansion
Pack.
- -The tentative release date for the expansion pack is the fourth of
July. I'm not quite so sure yet. I've figured that I will release an
expansion pack every time download rates start going down. The expansion
will include a more elaborate screen saver, and a couple other things.
It will be a nice one.
- -Patches: I will be releasing another patch which will add the start-up
and shut-down screeens. Which include the credits, sorry if the
contributors thought I left them out. I will be removing the old patch
with the release of the Expansion so if you have not downloaded the old
patch, do it now. If you downloaded DeLorean 95' after 6/8/98 then you
don't need the old patch, which adds the backgrounds. I may release the
new patch packed with the expansion, to cut download times.
- -After numerous requests I have decided to start production on the Mac
DMC desktop. I have a volunteer to help make a DeLorean Desktop for the
Mac, I'm not sure of the release date of the theme yet. I have a lot of
work. Tweaking the Windows version of DMC '95, updating website, adding
new sections to website. Oh yeah, the volunteer is Paris York. The name
of the theme is DeLorean OS.
- -I may make a Windows '98 version of the theme. Production starts after
the release of DeLorean OS.
Later,
Mostafa
http://members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/index.html
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 98 18:30:17 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: need a part.
Looking for a clock lens.
email bsmoody@xxxxxxx
if you have one you need to
rid yourself of .
- -Brandon
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 98 18:01:50 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@xxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: parts for sale
Thanks for the flood of email on the seat covers but
they are now sold. The engine and trans i mentioned
before is still available for sale.
- -Brandon
bsmoody@xxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:40:29 -0500
From: DMC-FLUX <dmc-flux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
Hello Greg,
Wednesday, 24 June 98, you wrote:
GG> A week or so ago, Scott Meuller mentioned the location of a possible
GG> VIN number on his instrument cluster that he saw when he removed the
GG> cluster. The vin number was a few numbers off from his actual VIN.
GG> The other day, I removed the rear bumper cover and impact absorber
GG> and found "2932" written in Irish black permanent ink ; ) on the rear
of
GG> my car's frame (VIN 2926). Again, a number a few off from my actual
GG> VIN. While I'm sure this is totally useless information, I find it to
GG> be a small glimpse into how cars were assembled at the factory, and
GG> why our cars are each a little bit different.
GG> ************************************************
GG> Morial Convention Center - New Orleans
GG> Greg Guillot, Director of Info Systems & Services
GG> 900 Convention Center Blvd,New Orleans, LA 70130
GG> Phone (504) 582-3116,Fax (504) 582-3104
GG> Email gguillot@xxxxxxxxx
GG> ************************************************
That reminds me of a good story...
A couple of weeks ago I was changing the speakers in the front of my
car. When we removed the left speaker, there was a small sticker
found. It read 3472. My vin is 3461, very close.
Best regards,
Dmc-flux mailto:dmc-flux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:16:05 -0500
From: "Bixby, Web" <wbixby@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: Finally got it!
Marc,
I have one also. I have one side of the sign and the frame. I replaced
the ballast for the florescent lights and put in some tubes that are
brighter and run cooler than what was recommended by the
manufacturer(even florescent technology has advanced in the past 17
years). Finally I had all of the wires replaced and mounted the whole
unit on my wall in the garage. I used a forklift to put it in place.
I might have some pictures if you are interested in seing the finished
product.
Regards
Web Bixby
> ----------
> From: Marc A Levy
> Reply To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 3:11 PM
> To: Delorean List
> Subject: DML: Finaly got it!
>
> Just figured I would share with the group (and boast a little I guess),
> in my efforts to collect Delorean related materials, I have been on
> the lookout for a DMC Dealer sign.
>
> Welp, I ran home at lunch time to unload the truck, and I now have the
> sign in my garage. Looks like it is in good shape, but is going to
> need some work before I hang it in my living room!
>
> So, anyone else out there restore one of these?? Any tips??
>
> One side of the sign is missing the Stainless Steel DMC lettering that
> looks like it was just glued on to the plastic. Anyone know where I can
> get some? or have new ones made?
>
> Marc
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:52:29 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Brake pedal
>Does anyone with automatics find that the brake pedal
>is too close to the gas pedal ? Just wandering if anyone
>has ever moved it and how they did it ?. of course,
>not everyone has size 14 sneekers trying to squeeze into the car.
>
>-Brandon
>
Ack! Isn't it horrible? I'm only a size 10 and I get hung up all the
time..
The only solution I could think of would be to cut the brake pedal to be
the same size as the manual-tranny pedal and use the rubber pad
from a manual-tranny car. ? Or a direct pedal swap might work.. I don't
know if there are any mechanical difference between the two?
Why do automatics have larger brake pedals anyway?
Dave
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:56:17 -0700
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the comments on the torsion bar adjustment. There are
several ways to do it. OF course the main thing is not to get carried away
and do it without seeing and knowing what the catastrophic results COULD
be
if you let it get away from you! I wish it had been set up like on
Chrysler
products Torsion bar adjustments on the front end, with a sort or ring
that
goes around it and just turn a bolt to twist it. When I think of it tho, I
guess there would not be space for a setup like that.
I am not just clear what you are saying about using a T bar tho. OF
course that would work, but you sure would need it to be awful long I
would
think to get the leverage needed. IF you build the jig per the
instructions, there is no problem of getting it off to one side.....the
jig
cradles the 30 inch extension out from the rear of the torsion bar nicely.
Anyway whatever works and is safe and secure is fine. With the jig system
you do not need to take the louvre off either.
Best regards.
Murray
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:18:41 -0400
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Movie DMC's
Hi all,
Could anyone point me in the right directions for a couple of DeLoreans?
We're doing
a thing here at work (Ketchum Public Relations) for a client that may
involve the use
of original (no replicas, unfortunately) movie/TV cars. You can guess
what my first
thoughts were... =)
Are all of the BTTF cars still owned by the studio? How about the
Wedding Singer
car? If anybody can point me in the right direction, please drop me a
line at
dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxx
- -Dave Stragand
1958 Plymouth -- "Christine" clone.
Still working on getting the D... I have a lead on a completely
disassembled '82 for
$2000, but he's hesitant to sell. I'll keep working him... =)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:42:01 -0800
From: "tomcio" <tomcio@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
Hi all,
I did the adjustment not a long ago and I recomend using a T
extension for that allen wrench. That way you will turn the torsion
bar without pulling it to the side and possible braking it. I got my
T extension from Sears for around $10. Also, it is much easier to
turn that bar using two hands intstead of one. Good luck with the
adjustment. And believe me, it was much easier than I thought.
Tom
vin 6298
"Murray Fisher" <murrayf@xxxxxxx> wrote on Thursday June 25, 1998 at
12:07pm:
>Usually when I see a request for something I know about, I wait for ten
>other people to give their responses. This time I have just finished
>the Door Torsion Bar adjustment and thought it might be timely for
>me to comment.
....SNIP........
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:26:36 -0400
From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
Joe,
Sorry about the miss-information. The problem your having is located in
the
"buzzer logic box circuit". Whenever you turn the ignition key to the
start
position the logic box illuminates the seat belt light and sounds the
buzzer for 5 seconds as a reminder. We need to find out why this is
happening when your shifting. I will do some research on this and get back
to you,
Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
> From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 3:06 PM
>
> Thanks Joe, but it's the seatbelt light, not the brake light. Best
> regards,
> Joe
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:12:07 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
Why the heck would DMC put the vin on every part in the car? Seems
silly!
DMC-FLUX wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago I was changing the speakers in the front of my
> car. When we removed the left speaker, there was a small sticker
> found. It read 3472. My vin is 3461, very close.
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 8:25:24 -0600
From: Greg Guillot <gguillot@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Alternative Seats
Does anybody else have any experience with replacement seats? The D
has a simple bolt pattern for the seats, and since the floorboard is
flat, I would think that it would be easy to mount a different type
of seat. My original seats are in poor shape, and need the foam as
well as new covers, so I am looking for a good alternative until I
can have the originals redone. Since I have many other areas of the
car that require my time and money, I am going to hold off on the
original seats until the end of the restoration project. I know there
are some really comfortable seats out there, and I guess I'll just
have to go rummage through an import car junkyard and find a pair.
Seats out of an early to mid '80's Corvette would look sharp. Anybody
else have a suggestion?
Greg Guillot
VIN #2926
On 25 Jun 98 at 14:29, Duke wrote:
> I put a set of '95 leather Trans Am seats in mine with minor mods. Took a
> little work but is well worth it.
<SNIP>
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