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["timnagin" <timnagin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

And right on cue, the topic is changed when pressed.  Make up your mind,
Bob.  I thought you were discussing how evil GM is and why we all can't get
electric cars that most people do not want.

 

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am14

 

Show us where we have any right to force them to build what we want, and
give me proof.  You never seem to do that when asked.

 

Greg

 

 

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From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Bob Brandys
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:03 PM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DMCForum] 

 

Ryan,

You said "We have absolutely zero right to force someone to build, or 
not crush,
electric cars, not even if it's "in (our) best interests." 
Unfortunately, this statement is not correct. You should check into 
the history of corporate charters.

Prior to the civil war all corporation charters were issued for the 
purposes of corporation serving the public good. The trade of made by 
government in issuing corporate charters was that the corporation would 
have limited liability because they were serving the public good. 
That was the intent of corporation from day 1 and still is in most 
countries outside of the US.

What this also meant was that if the corporation was NOT acting in the 
public interest the corporate charter could be revoked. In fact, this 
happened a number of times to stop corporate greed prior to the civil 
war.

So what's with the civil war? Why is this a turning point? Well, you 
need to look at the history of the 14th amendment.

This amendment was sold to the public as giving slaves the right to 
vote. On the other hand, what this amendment really did was to 
classify corporations as individuals and remove the right of states to 
revoke corporate charters when corporations do not act in the public's 
interests.

If you look at an accurate history of the civil war, you will see that 
it was started over an economic issue of tariffs on southern cotton. 
The whole slavery thing only came on later in the war as the publics 
interest in the north was waning after a number of losses to the south, 
Lincoln and his advisors came up with the slavery abolition idea, to 
continue to sell the war to the north.

However, it was a back door deal to northern corporations to devise a 
law that would appear to "Free the slaves" but actually "freed the 
corporations" to conduct greed wars on the public.

In fact, over the past 100+ years, the 14th amendment has been used to 
protect corporation over 996 times, while it only was use 4 times to 
deal with voting rights for slaves.

See the video documentaries "the corporation" and "america-freedom 
to fascism."

History: if we don't learn from it, we are destine to repeat it.

Bob






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