It's probably got a weight. --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jon Heese" <dmcforum@...> wrote: > > How does it know whether it's perpendicular to the ground? > > Regards, > Jon Heese > > Ross Apperson wrote: > > I don't know what to tell you. The accelorameter only > > works when the phone is perpendictular to the ground, > > like Jack said. I'm not totally sure how it works, but > > I can tell you what the results are. > > > > --- Jon Heese <dmcforum@...> wrote: > > > >> Jack Stiefel wrote: > >>> Ok imagine you're laying in bed and are looking at > >> a web page on > >>> portrait mode. Now you want landscape, just tilt > >> the phone > >>> perpendicular to the Earth and spin it. It will > >> transition to > >>> landscape. Now lean it back and enjoy the new > >> view. It is easier > >>> than it sounds. > >> Right. Sounds obnoxious. That was my original > >> point. > >> > >>> Spinning it on a table does nothing as the unit is > >> flat to the Earth. > >> > >> Flat to the earth, yes. But the phone doesn't > >> detect "earth", it > >> detects force, and spinning it around the z-axis > >> will generate force > >> along both the y- and the x- axis in both > >> directions, out from the center. > >> > >>> I'm at Disney with the kids and my mind hurts LOL, > >> forgive me. > >> > >> My condolences. :) > >> > >> Regards, > >> Jon Heese > >> > >>> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum > >>> > >>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 6:47 PM, "Jon Heese" > >> <dmcforum@...> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Jack Stiefel wrote: > >>>> Apple has licensed exchange. Its already an > >> option when setting up > >>>> email, just not push yet. That's whats due out > >> very soon from what > >>>> I've been told. > >>> Interesting. That's news to me, but good for them. > >>> > >>>> I've used mine laying down in bed. What happens > >> is it stays in > >>>> portrait until you tilt it round and make it > >> straight, then it > >>>> changes and as long as toy don't turn I'd back > >> straight and lean it > >>>> back straight it won't change... God I sound > >> stupid, but you get > >>>> the gist. Also spinning it on a table does > >> nothing as the unit is > >>>> laying down not perpendicular to the ground... > >> Does any of this > >>>> make sense? > >>> Kind of, but either you missed the point of what I > >> was saying and I'm > >>> not getting your response.. > >>> > >>> It must use a sensor that "feels" gravity in the > >> x- and y-axes of the > >>> phone. When you turn it like a PSP, it "feels" > >> gravity pulling along > >>> the short axis, and turns the orientation. > >> Likewise, when you turn > >>> it up like a phone, it "feels" gravity pulling > >> along the long axis > >>> and turns the orientation appropriately. My > >> question is: What if > >>> gravity is pulling along the z-axis, i.e. you're > >> laying the phone > >>> flat on like a table, or over your head pointed > >> down at you? > >>> It sounds like you're saying it just keeps the > >> last known > >>> orientation. If so, that's exactly why I think > >> it's a flawed feature. > >>> Good to impress co-workers, but of limited use if > >> you tend to hold > >>> your cell phone flat when looking at it (as I do). > >>> > >>> My idea of spinning it flat on a table was to get > >> the accelerometers > >>> that are designed to "feel" gravity to go wacky > >> and freak out the > >>> programming that determines which way gravity is > >> pulling. I suppose > >>> that spinning it like that would fire the sensors > >> for both the x- and > >>> y-axes, and I suppose they would tell it to do > >> nothing when that > >>> happens. > >>> > >>> Regards, Jon Heese > >>> > >>>> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, "Jon Heese" > >> <dmcforum@...> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The one thing I thought was sort of a gimmicky > >> feature, from the > >>>> commercial was the tilt sensor that changes the > >> orientation of the > >>>> screen when you turn it from landscape to > >> portrait and vice > >>>> versa... > >>>> > >>>> What if you have it laying flat on its back? > >> Which way does it > >>>> orient itself? It can't possibly know which way > >> I'm looking at it, > >>>> can it? > >>>> > >>>> Then I started wondering what it would do if you > >> spin it like a top > >>>> on its back, like on a smooth table or > >> something?... Will the tilt > >>>> sensor go crazy? I'd like to see that. > >>>> > >>>> On the topic of the Exchange Direct Push stuff: > >> Are there plans to > >>>> support this eventually? As far as I know, this > >> is not open > >>>> technology, and I would be surprised if Microsoft > >> would license the > >>>> API to Apple so they can use it to try and take > >> the PDA tech > >>>> market away from them. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, Jon Heese > >>>> > >>>> Jack Stiefel wrote: > >>>>> So far I have been very impressed. The only > >> thing I really want > >>>>> is the exchange push and sync. I have had every > >> PDA Verizon and > >>>>> at&t sell and have had lackluster results until > >> now. The ipod > >>>>> part is great as is the visual voicemail and the > >> use of the > >>>>> finger for resizing web sites and pictures. It > >> is cool to just > >>>>> choose a message and hear it, no logging in or > >> listening to > >>>>> prerecorded voice prompts. I also enjoy full > >> HTML email support > >>>>> and while the exchange sync is not there YET, > >> yahoo emails push > >>>>> in just fine. > >>>>> > >>>>> The camera takes very good pics, I'm very > >> impressed. > >>>>> The phone reacts just like on the ads, no trick > >> photography > >>>>> there. > >>>>> > >>>>> I've been reading tons of posts and there are > >> some updates coming > >>>>> down the pike that will make this more of a > >> business phone. > >>>>> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:04 PM, "Dave Stragand" > >>>>> <dave.stragand@...> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> No problem. I, like everyone else, have heard a > >> LOT of hype about > >>>>> those. Is it true they allow you to place calls > >> to the dead? And > >>>>> is there really a built-in AED unit? =))) > >>>>> > >>>>> Want to tell us all your first impressions? > >>>>> > >>>>> -Dave > >>>>> > >>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>> > >>>>> From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >>>>> On Behalf Of Jack Stiefel Sent: Monday, July 02, > >> 2007 4:54 PM To: > >>>>> DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: > >> [DMCForum] Test email > >>>>> I didst even notice that. Sorry that's removed > >> now > >>>>> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:21 PM, "Dave Stragand" > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. > > http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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