Re: [DMCForum] Test email

[Ross Apperson <rossapperson@xxxxxxxxx>]

I don't know what to tell you. The accelorameter only
works when the phone is perpendictular to the ground,
like Jack said. I'm not totally sure how it works, but
I can tell you what the results are.

--- Jon Heese <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Jack Stiefel wrote:
> > Ok imagine you're laying in bed and are looking at
> a web page on
> > portrait mode.  Now you want landscape, just tilt
> the phone
> > perpendicular to the Earth and spin it.  It will
> transition to
> > landscape.  Now lean it back and enjoy the new
> view.  It is easier
> > than it sounds.
> 
> Right.  Sounds obnoxious.  That was my original
> point.
> 
> > Spinning it on a table does nothing as the unit is
> flat to the Earth.
> 
> Flat to the earth, yes.  But the phone doesn't
> detect "earth", it 
> detects force, and spinning it around the z-axis
> will generate force 
> along both the y- and the x- axis in both
> directions, out from the center.
> 
> > I'm at Disney with the kids and my mind hurts LOL,
> forgive me.
> 
> My condolences.  :)
> 
> Regards,
> Jon Heese
> 
> > Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum
> > 
> > On Jul 2, 2007, at 6:47 PM, "Jon Heese"
> <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Jack Stiefel wrote:
> >> Apple has licensed exchange. Its already an
> option when setting up 
> >> email, just not push yet. That's whats due out
> very soon from what 
> >> I've been told.
> > 
> > Interesting. That's news to me, but good for them.
> > 
> >> I've used mine laying down in bed. What happens
> is it stays in 
> >> portrait until you tilt it round and make it
> straight, then it 
> >> changes and as long as toy don't turn I'd back
> straight and lean it
> >>  back straight it won't change... God I sound
> stupid, but you get
> >> the gist. Also spinning it on a table does
> nothing as the unit is
> >> laying down not perpendicular to the ground...
> Does any of this
> >> make sense?
> > 
> > Kind of, but either you missed the point of what I
> was saying and I'm
> >  not getting your response..
> > 
> > It must use a sensor that "feels" gravity in the
> x- and y-axes of the
> >  phone. When you turn it like a PSP, it "feels"
> gravity pulling along
> >  the short axis, and turns the orientation.
> Likewise, when you turn
> > it up like a phone, it "feels" gravity pulling
> along the long axis
> > and turns the orientation appropriately. My
> question is: What if
> > gravity is pulling along the z-axis, i.e. you're
> laying the phone
> > flat on like a table, or over your head pointed
> down at you?
> > 
> > It sounds like you're saying it just keeps the
> last known
> > orientation. If so, that's exactly why I think
> it's a flawed feature.
> > Good to impress co-workers, but of limited use if
> you tend to hold
> > your cell phone flat when looking at it (as I do).
> > 
> > My idea of spinning it flat on a table was to get
> the accelerometers
> >  that are designed to "feel" gravity to go wacky
> and freak out the 
> > programming that determines which way gravity is
> pulling. I suppose 
> > that spinning it like that would fire the sensors
> for both the x- and
> >  y-axes, and I suppose they would tell it to do
> nothing when that
> > happens.
> > 
> > Regards, Jon Heese
> > 
> >> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum
> >> 
> >> On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:55 PM, "Jon Heese"
> <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> The one thing I thought was sort of a gimmicky
> feature, from the 
> >> commercial was the tilt sensor that changes the
> orientation of the
> >>  screen when you turn it from landscape to
> portrait and vice
> >> versa...
> >> 
> >> What if you have it laying flat on its back?
> Which way does it
> >> orient itself? It can't possibly know which way
> I'm looking at it,
> >> can it?
> >> 
> >> Then I started wondering what it would do if you
> spin it like a top
> >>  on its back, like on a smooth table or
> something?... Will the tilt
> >>  sensor go crazy? I'd like to see that.
> >> 
> >> On the topic of the Exchange Direct Push stuff:
> Are there plans to
> >>  support this eventually? As far as I know, this
> is not open 
> >> technology, and I would be surprised if Microsoft
> would license the
> >>  API to Apple so they can use it to try and take
> the PDA tech
> >> market away from them.
> >> 
> >> Regards, Jon Heese
> >> 
> >> Jack Stiefel wrote:
> >>> So far I have been very impressed. The only
> thing I really want
> >>> is the exchange push and sync. I have had every
> PDA Verizon and
> >>> at&t sell and have had lackluster results until
> now. The ipod
> >>> part is great as is the visual voicemail and the
> use of the
> >>> finger for resizing web sites and pictures. It
> is cool to just
> >>> choose a message and hear it, no logging in or
> listening to
> >>> prerecorded voice prompts. I also enjoy full
> HTML email support
> >>> and while the exchange sync is not there YET,
> yahoo emails push
> >>> in just fine.
> >>> 
> >>> The camera takes very good pics, I'm very
> impressed.
> >>> 
> >>> The phone reacts just like on the ads, no trick
> photography
> >>> there.
> >>> 
> >>> I've been reading tons of posts and there are
> some updates coming
> >>>  down the pike that will make this more of a
> business phone.
> >>> 
> >>> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum
> >>> 
> >>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 5:04 PM, "Dave Stragand" 
> >>> <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> No problem. I, like everyone else, have heard a
> LOT of hype about
> >>>  those. Is it true they allow you to place calls
> to the dead? And
> >>> is there really a built-in AED unit? =)))
> >>> 
> >>> Want to tell us all your first impressions?
> >>> 
> >>> -Dave
> >>> 
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> 
> >>> From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> On Behalf Of Jack Stiefel Sent: Monday, July 02,
> 2007 4:54 PM To:
> >>>  DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re:
> [DMCForum] Test email
> >>> 
> >>> I didst even notice that. Sorry that's removed
> now
> >>> 
> >>> Jack Stiefel Stiefel Aluminum
> >>> 
> >>> On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:21 PM, "Dave Stragand" 
> 
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