Re: [DMCForum] Re: Posting FROM Marc Levy about Moderation

[Jon Heese <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The few who are standing up against the new policies are the only ones 
who really should be members of this group.

Members who thank you for banning Marc should be urged to find another 
group where members can be banned, with the explanation that this group 
is an open forum.

Regards,
Jon Heese

Jack Stiefel wrote:
> Nope only a few select 2 or 3 and some have come forward thanking us for the ban... So we are about even just you and Kevin ec. wont move on with life. 
> 
> Jack Stiefel
> DMC Vin 3461 & 16879
> www.fmtimemachine.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Jon Heese" <dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 7/20/2006 8:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: Posting FROM Marc Levy about Moderation
> 
> There are two sides to that coin.
> 
> Right now, it seems more likely that people are getting pissed off for 
> all of the shit that the moderators are doing.
> 
> Regards,
> Jon Heese
> 
> Jack Stiefel wrote:
>> Yeah thats all fine an good to say now, but if we live by that rule the members
>> dwindle down as they get pissed off for all the shit that gets thown about, hence
>> the need for some kind of moderation. 
>>
>> Jack Stiefel
>> DMC Vin 3461 & 16879
>> www.fmtimemachine.-com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Kevin Abato" <HYPERLINK "mailto:delorean%40abato.net"delorean@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "HYPERLINK "mailto:DMCForum%40yahoogroups.com"DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; <HYPERLINK "mailto:DMCForum%40yahoogroups.com"DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: 7/19/2006 2:12 PM
>> Subject: RE: [DMCForum] Re: Posting FROM Marc Levy about Moderation
>>
>> Why do you need to decide when to end a topic. If you don't want to read
>> about it anymore....DON'--T
>> Its simple...really. If you watch TV, and don't like what you see...change
>> the channel and watch something else. Don't have your cable company block
>> the show for everyone they service.
>>
>> Kevin Abato
>> Vin# 16680
>>
>>
>>
>> _____ 
>>
>> From: HYPERLINK "mailto:DMCForum%-40yahoogroups.-com"HYPERLINK "mailto:DMCForum%40yahoogroup-s.com"DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:DMCForum%-40yahoogroups.-com"HYPERLINK "mailto:DMCForum%40yahoogroup-s.com"DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Jon Heese
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:29 PM
>> To: HYPERLINK "mailto:DMCForum%-40yahoogroups.-com"HYPERLINK "mailto:DMCForum%40yahoogroup-s.com"DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: Posting FROM Marc Levy about Moderation
>>
>> I think the problems lies in who decides when a topic needs to be ended. 
>> This is obviously a subjective decision and thus opens the door to 
>> problems that plague many moderated discussion lists/forums. There are 
>> really only two right answers to this question as far as I can see it. 
>> Either "no one", or "everyone". I could consider "a majority of 
>> everyone" as an almost right answer. The last two require some way for 
>> all members to vote on an individual basis for the removal of each 
>> individual post, which is just silly and really negates the need for 
>> moderation (if every member is expected to read the offending post and 
>> vote, what good does removing that post do?). "No one" is really the 
>> best answer because it requires no set up, no maintenance, allows for no 
>> corruption or abuse of power, and is directly in line with the initial 
>> reasons behind the forum's creation.
>>
>> I don't remember ever seeing a poll for "Should DMCForum be moderated? 
>> Yes or No". Did I miss this, or are you referring to the vague 
>> "Religion"/"--Politics" polls?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jon Heese
>>
>> timnagin wrote:
>>> Chuck,
>>>
>>> The Forum is still, essentially, unmoderated. The only time the
>>> "moderators" step in is when a topic needs to be ended. As was mentioned
>>> already, this was voted for by the group.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: DMCForum@yahoogroup <mailto:DMCForum%--40yahoogroups.--com> s.com
>> [mailto:DMCForum@--yahoogroup <mailto:DMCForum%--40yahoogroups.--com> s.com] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of Chuck McKnight
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:52 PM
>>> To: DMCForum@yahoogroup <mailto:DMCForum%--40yahoogroups.--com> s.com
>>> Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: Posting FROM Marc Levy about Moderation
>>>
>>> Exactly, the whole idea of DMCForum was to be unmoderated. SO LET IT BE
>>> UNMODERATED ALLREADY. Just my two cents.
>>>
>>> Chuck McKnight
>>>
>>> Erik Geerdink <dmcerik@yahoo. <mailto:dmcerik%--40yahoo.-com> com> wrote: Do
>>> you think i read the rules? nope. I don't care about them. It wasn't
>>> until now that these "rules" were enforced, so thats why i'm speaking up.
>> I
>>> don't see why you guys just can't let the forum be un-moderated. Who are
>>> you trying to protect? 
>>>
>>> Think of the stress relief you both would have if you just let the forum
>>> run itself and stopped trying to police things. no more late nights trying
>>> to make things right. Just let it go.
>>>
>>> Erik
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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