Re: [DMCForum] Re: MODERATOR ANNOUNCEMENT

[mike clemens <rmclemns@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Josh,

Where you located and what are the details about your
car??  5-speed or auto, painted or original, black or
gray interior??  Got any pictures you could post?? 
Always glad to hear from a member who doesn't post
much.

Mike   TPS    1630



--- Joshua Schwartz <Joshieloo@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> As Martin said, Marc can certainly rub people the
> wrong way, BUT the 
> only way it can bother you is if you let it. For
> what it's worth, Marc 
> has said and done things that have rubbed me the
> wrong way, but I'm sure 
> I have said and done things to him and others that
> have rubbed them the 
> wrong way. Regardless, you either choose to be
> friendly with that person 
> or you choose not to. If you choose to remain
> friendly, as I have with 
> Marc, you learn that that is how that person is; it
> is what defines his 
> personality and character. Do I agree with Marc
> often? Honestly, not 
> most of the time, but he is super intelligent and
> brutally honest, and 
> that is what I like about him. If you choose not to
> be friendly with 
> that person, as I have in the past with others, then
> you distance 
> yourself from that person...end of story.
> 
> Why take things so personally? If something was said
> and done to you 
> that you felt was wrong, why not take it up with
> that person, rather 
> than make it public? Who is the better person for
> it? Trying to diffuse 
> a situation privately is the diplomatic way - who
> can ever say anything 
> bad about you by taking that road? If that person
> make a public stink; 
> so be it. At that point, would you really care what
> that person says or 
> thinks. Wouldn't it be obvious to everyone that
> there is something 
> definitely wrong with that person - enough so that
> others wouldn't want 
> anything to do with him/her? A person that defames
> another persons 
> character is an obvious sign of insecurity on their
> part.
> 
> I've always been amazed at how much controversy
> there is on lists like 
> these. I almost never post to groups like this
> because to me, it is a 
> form of entertainment. Groups like this revolve
> around my hobby for the 
> DeLorean. But seriously...discussions that revolve
> around "what he said, 
> what she said" are nothing short of futile. Who gets
> in the last word? 
> Apparently, in this case the moderating team. Again,
> we all have the 
> option of discounting what another person said.
> Aren't we all smart 
> enough to realize this? I'll be honest, I laugh at
> each posting that 
> doesn't pertain to the DeLorean because it's so
> unbelievable that some 
> people let it bother them. If someone says something
> directly/indirectly 
> to you on the forum and you feel it's wrong,
> antagonistic, etc., why 
> would you reply publicly? It goes back to what I
> said in the above 
> paragraph. Why not post back privately? As a reader
> of the Forum, this 
> is what I would see (and I'm sure 99% of us would)
> if there was a post 
> attacking another member: OK, here's someone trying
> to start some "shit" 
> with another member. WOW, that person has said
> things that border on 
> wrong/nasty. As a few days pass, nothing, no
> response from the 
> "attacked." Well,  apparently, the "attackor" must
> have been full of his 
> own "shit." Kudos the the other person for not
> getting involved.
> 
> This is no different than turning away from a
> pending fist fight. Some 
> people like to get into fisticuffs, but those that
> take the high road 
> are smarter than the hot-head. This isn't to say
> that I would avoid a 
> fight regardless of what has happened, but in this
> case (Marc v. DMC 
> Forum)...who give a flying shit? Respond privately,
> or ask publicly to 
> go private.  Who has the time in their lives to let
> this bother them?  I 
> am too busy working and stressed to let this stuff
> bother me. Am I the 
> only one that thinks and feels this way?
> 
> As it has been said in the past, there is a delete
> key, or a scroll 
> option. Use to to bypass what you want to read and
> what you don't want 
> to read. If you find an attack against yourself,
> don't get into a public 
> debate, handle it privately. There is no need to
> "moderate" this list 
> and there is no need for "rules" and for that
> matter, no need to "ban" 
> any member. Should we act like children that need
> supervision or should 
> we handle ourselves like adults and deal with our
> problems maturely? 
> Apparently, the moderating team and Marc need to
> handle this together 
> and not involve the members.
> 
> - Joshua Schwartz
> 


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